It won't matter what they do if they don't MARKET THE DAMN THING!
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It won't matter what they do if they don't MARKET THE DAMN THING!
the_dengle said:
I didn't even want to buy a launch 3DS or Wii U. Both of those systems were too expensive and lacking critical features at launch. I bought a 3DS in 2012 for $160 and still haven't bought a Wii U. $250 is too much for a handheld in my opinion, I'd rather pay $200 or under. Likewise, $300 is pushing it for a console, that's probably the most I'd pay but I'd prefer $250 or under. As it stands, the Wii U has a couple of games bundled for that $300, so it's not bad. |
I think a handheld can get away with being $250 as long as it has an excellent launch lineup and a strong post-launch release schedule. Something 3DS did not have.
When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.
zorg1000 said: I think a handheld can get away with being $250 as long as it has an excellent launch lineup and a strong post-launch release schedule. Something 3DS did not have. |
It can get away with it, sure, but it would have to be one fricking amazing handheld to get me to spend that much for the hardware alone.
the_dengle said:
Considering OP asked for a "mega powerful" console, I assumed he meant more powerful than the Xbox One was relative to 2013, which would mean more expensive than the Xbox One was in 2013, which I interpreted as $500+. If it was much less than that, it wouldn't really justify the annual payment plan. People have already shown that they are more than willing to spend $400 on a new console. PS3 got a few games recently and has a few more coming, but NX isn't out yet and won't be for at least a year and a half, more likely two and a half years. I consider your suggestion that anyone who doesn't want to spend $400 or more on a new console should just buy a ten-year-old console instead as belittling as Don Mattrick's infamous "we have a product for people who don't want an always-online device, it's called Xbox 360" blunder. It's especially unhelpful to a long-time Nintendo fan. Just buy a Wii or a 3DS instead? I already have those. I bought them for $250 and $160, respectively, and I have no interest in paying double or triple that amount for a game console, whether all at once or spread out over several years. |
hmm, well I've always seen it that most people don't adopt new systems right away whilst theres still support on the ones they currently have and the ones that do don't mind paying a premium price. I guess its a bit different with Nintendo in that their gens don't cross over at all. A new systems arrival is the previous systems immediate death lol
would you feel more comfortable pay $400 for NX if it had as much third party support as the playstation4?
teigaga said:
hmm, well I've always seen it that most people don't adopt new systems right away whilst theres still support on the ones they currently have and the ones that do don't mind paying a premium price. I guess its a bit different with Nintendo in that their gens don't cross over at all. A new systems arrival is the previous systems immediate death lol would you feel more comfortable pay $400 for NX if it had as much third party support as the playstation4? |
Useless info as we would never know if this would happen until it does. What would be better is a strong 1st party release offerings, and hype marketing.
bigtakilla said:
Useless info as we would never know if this would happen until it does. What would be better is a strong 1st party release offerings, and hype marketing. |
Its not infomation, its a hypothetical question ;)
teigaga said:
Its not infomation, its a hypothetical question ;) |
But not one that can be realized.
bigtakilla said:
Price I can agree with if the systems do not offer anything more than the ability to share software. If there is an updated version of the gamepad (720 display, ect) I can see the MSRP being around $300. As for upgrades every three years, it may be possible, but still something I don't really see. It may be like their New 3DS system, where the updated hardware may get some exclusives, but the majority of games would still be for both gens.... I don't know, as I said, this is hard to see for me. I think this will have a lot to do with the success of the New 3DS. I would be all for an add on (think 32X for the Sega Genesis) that allows for games to detect the device and add more effects to the game if the device is detected, but a whole new console would be a pretty big gamble. |
Well their is a history of people upgrading their consoles every few years.
Playstation-1995, PSOne-2000
PS2-2000, PS2 Slim-2004
PS3-2006, Slim-2009, Super Slim-2012
Xbox 360-2005, Xbox 360S-2010
The difference is that in this situation the new selling point wouldn't be the device being smaller/sleeker but that it has better performance.
When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.
zorg1000 said:
Well their is a history of people upgrading their consoles every few years. Playstation-1995, PSOne-2000 PS2-2000, PS2 Slim-2004 PS3-2006, Slim-2009, Super Slim-2012 Xbox 360-2005, Xbox 360S-2010 The difference is that in this situation the new selling point wouldn't be the device being smaller/sleeker but that it has better performance. |
Those different models didn't offer improved resolution, they just offered more memory. (And were around the same price, maybe $50 more.)
the_dengle said:
It can get away with it, sure, but it would have to be one fricking amazing handheld to get me to spend that much for the hardware alone. |
Ya i agree it would have to be pretty amazing. Here is much what the 3DS first year, Nintendo-published lineup looked like
March 2011-Nintendogs+Cats, Pilotwings Resort, Steel Diver
June 2011-Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
September 2011-Star Fox 64 3D
October 2011-Pokemon Rumble Blast
November 2011-Super Mario 3D Land
December 2011-Mario Kart 7
March 2012-Kid Icarus: Uprising
There was just too big of a gap between releases for the first 6 months. Had they delayed it 6 months and the lineup looked more like this than I believe 3DS would have done alright at $250.
August 2011-Nintendogs+Cats, Ocarina of Time 3D, Pilotwings Resort
September 2011-Star Fox 64 3D, Steel Diver
October 2011-Pokemon Rumble Blast
November 2011-Super Mario 3D Land
February 2012-Mario Kart 7
March 2012-Kid Icarus: Uprising
May 2012-Mario Tennis Open
August 2012-price cut to $199.99, 3DS XL launch-$249.99, New Super Mario Bros. 2
If that's how the 3DS first year played out than I believe the price wouldn't have been as big of a factor for many people.
When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.