Veknoid_Outcast said: Oh man, we are on very different pages here The Voyage Home is my pick for best Star Trek movie. And Final Frontier is my pick for second worst.

Varying opinions are wonderful, don't be sad! How come you liked the one and not the other?

The humor of Voyage Home was really the only thing, at least to me, that I found appealing about that movie (and it was very funny), but there were so many questions about the plot that just never got answered and little of it seemed plausible anyway lol.

I found the "evil" Vulcan to be, at least based on these first five movies and the first series, to be one of the most enjoyable and appealing "villians" in Star Trek lore.

I agree that Sybok is an interesting villain - especially for a series with so many indistinct and uncompelling bad guys. And the main players are dependable as always. But Shatner's direction was self-indulgent, and the entire production strange in tone. It veered wildly from broad humor to weighty ideas about existence and identity. The action scenes are poorly framed and the movie suffers in the final act from a lack of focus. The movie just seemed to be pulling in several different directions.

As for IV, I adore it. It was loose, and funny, and warm, but it also touched on some classic science-fiction tropes: time travel, environmentalism, and using a utopian future as a lens with which to view the present. I think it's remarkable that Meyer, Bennett, and Nimoy managed to make an excellent Trek movie with almost no spacebound action, virtually no Enterprise, or even a real villain.

If I had to rank the first six Trek films from most to least favorite, it would be: 2, 4, 6, 3, 1, and 5.

Wrath of Khan will always be the best Trek movie. There's not a single bad thing I could think to say about this movie. The villain, the pacing, the music, and every other component of the film meshed together to create a sci-fi masterpiece.

The Voyage Home was a very fun movie, a nice change of pace from the space exploration and evil villains. It's also an imminently quotable film.

The Undiscovered Country provided some great closure to the Federation-Klingon rivalry that persisted since the original series, and had a good story overall.

The Search for Spock was a solid movie. It wasn't amazing, but it was a well-crafted film, plus James Horner returned to score it and he used many of the same musical cues from WoK. It also introduced the Klingon Bird of Prey, my second-favorite ship class in the Trek universe after the Constitution-class refit.

The Motion Picture was a decent start to the Trek film series, though a bit to esoteric and abstract for my tastes. However, it did introduce a new Star Trek theme song composed by Jerry Goldsmith, which later became the default Star Trek theme for years to come, and the docking scene that showed off the remodeled Enterprise in all her glory was great.

The Final Frontier, however, was a very hit-or-miss film. It had some fun parts, but other times it suffered from sloppy editing and effects. The overall plot was kinda meh. Still, it's just enjoyable enough to watch on occasion.

If I had to rank the first six Trek films from most to least favorite, it would be: 2, 4, 6, 3, 1, and 5.

Wrath of Khan will always be the best Trek movie. There's not a single bad thing I could think to say about this movie. The villain, the pacing, the music, and every other component of the film meshed together to create a sci-fi masterpiece.

The Voyage Home was a very fun movie, a nice change of pace from the space exploration and evil villains. It's also an imminently quotable film.

The Undiscovered Country provided some great closure to the Federation-Klingon rivalry that persisted since the original series, and had a good story overall.

The Search for Spock was a solid movie. It wasn't amazing, but it was a well-crafted film, plus James Horner returned to score it and he used many of the same musical cues from WoK. It also introduced the Klingon Bird of Prey, my second-favorite ship class in the Trek universe after the Constitution-class refit.

The Motion Picture was a decent start to the Trek film series, though a bit to esoteric and abstract for my tastes. However, it did introduce a new Star Trek theme song composed by Jerry Goldsmith, which later became the default Star Trek theme for years to come, and the docking scene that showed off the remodeled Enterprise in all her glory was great.

The Final Frontier, however, was a very hit-or-miss film. It had some fun parts, but other times it suffered from sloppy editing and effects. The overall plot was kinda meh. Still, it's just enjoyable enough to watch on occasion.