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Would it matter to you a downgrade in XCX?

Yes 144 29.45%
 
No 266 54.40%
 
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Barkley said:
Materia-Blade said:

I only see a change in the clothes and doll. any smaller difference in the scenario is expected after 2 years of development.

Note that I'm talking about changes, not downgrades. The quality is the same or higher.


Only you could say that this isn't a downgrade. This particular shot is like the difference between a ps2 and ps3 game.

 

Anyway, I don't think too many people will be that bothered, it'll still be a great game. 


Only because of that one floor texture which is perfectly fine and exactly the same quality as the 2013 trailer mere SECONDS later.  All other changes in those images are just that, changes.  Not indicative of a downgrade.  The lighting is brighter in the second and there's less going on at the moment, that's really it.



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irstupid said:
Hmm seems they must have done what other companies do and made a "fake in-game" trailer way back then.

Cause everytime a new video has come out of gameplay stuff they have been better than earlier videos. This is the only time we have seen an exeption. I thought Nintendo was above the "fake in-game" trailers

They didn't necessarily 'fake' anything. There are some obvious differences between the two builds, some of which i personally think make the new one look worse, but until we have the game in our hands it's hard to make proper judgments. We don't know yet if the changes are due to a shift in focus, are actual downgrades (likely for the sake of performance), or are purely contextual.

Even if there are genuine downgrades, it doesn't have to mean a developer/publisher is trying to deceive people. They might have felt they wouldn't be able to hit their performance target in time so sacrificed a degree of fidelity (which i expect most would be fine with), or it could simply be a case of [x] graphical feature being given up for [y] (which people tend to perceive as a negative downgrade, even when it's an even trade). There are plenty of situations where a 'downgrade' can be justified.



Looks like the lighting got scaled back a bit.

Maybe a possible NX port some day will be able to run the original lighting with no fuss.



canceling pre-order.

nah



Yes, is a Downgrade.
Just because is Nintendo not means that is not downgrade...



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Barkley said:
Materia-Blade said:

I only see a change in the clothes and doll. any smaller difference in the scenario is expected after 2 years of development.

Note that I'm talking about changes, not downgrades. The quality is the same or higher.


Only you could say that this isn't a downgrade. This particular shot is like the difference between a ps2 and ps3 game.

 

Anyway, I don't think too many people will be that bothered, it'll still be a great game. 

"This particular shot is like the difference between a ps2 and ps3 game."

Are you even listening to yourself? There wasn't any downgrade. this particular section looks different, but not worse. And the game itself was overall upgrade since reveal. we have over 1 and a half hours of footage that prove that.



Scisca said:
The downgrade is massive. Such a pity it was all bullshots It's not like this downgrade changes my decision to buy the game, but damn, the first version looked so much better!

If i had to guess, the 2014 trailer was pre-rendered using in-engine graphics, whereas the "downgrade" comes from texture pop-in and differences in lighting. A better comparison would be the snips of gameplay footage from 13 and 14 compared to footage of the live game.

But we'll be able to see that in a few weeks to really know.



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Mr Khan said:
Scisca said:
The downgrade is massive. Such a pity it was all bullshots It's not like this downgrade changes my decision to buy the game, but damn, the first version looked so much better!

If i had to guess, the 2014 trailer was pre-rendered using in-engine graphics, whereas the "downgrade" comes from texture pop-in and differences in lighting. A better comparison would be the snips of gameplay footage from 13 and 14 compared to footage of the live game.

But we'll be able to see that in a few weeks to really know.

This!  Seriously people, this.  However, I doubt the entirety of the 2013 E3 trailer was prerendered, probably just that opening segment since they wanted a very specific set of circumstances for that one shot where as here in this presentation that wasn't a concern.  



Materia-Blade said:
Barkley said:


Only you could say that this isn't a downgrade. This particular shot is like the difference between a ps2 and ps3 game.

 

Anyway, I don't think too many people will be that bothered, it'll still be a great game. 

"This particular shot is like the difference between a ps2 and ps3 game."

Are you even listening to yourself? There wasn't any downgrade. this particular section looks different, but not worse. And the game itself was overall upgrade since reveal. we have over 1 and a half hours of footage that prove that.


I'm not saying the whole game looks worse, only the footage in that video. But you saying that particular shot doesn't look worse is.... incredible. I'm sure you'd say the same thing if it wasn't a nintendo game right. People get far too attatched to brands and corporations and let it influence there thought patterns without even realizing. I should probably leave this site, it's very rare that there's any intelligent, unbiased discussion.



I'm so glad that I rarely notice minor visual differences like these ones. Makes my life a lot easier. When I saw the walking sequence from the new footage I only noticed that it was a different person doing the walking.