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What describes your tastes?

PS4 is awesome! X1 is garbage! 190 52.20%
 
X1 is awesome! PS4 is garbage! 27 7.42%
 
they're both GREAT! 94 25.82%
 
they both SUCK! 53 14.56%
 
Total:364

Also even on multiplats I remember seeing threads about which system runs the game better.



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OP is being rather narrow in just looking at PS4 vs Xb one as the context for this fan war. It all started back with Xb OG vs PS2. It intensified with 360 vs PS3 and it is now entrenched.



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Nicklesbe said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:

what games do you have for your wii u?

Zombie U, Smash Bros, the newish super Mario bros, Mario Kart, Wind Waker remake and Bayonetta. Of those games I own and others I've played only Zombie U and mario 3d have any kind of real support for the touch pad, and no amiibos don't count in smash. Most of the time you are just looking at the second screen with no touch functionality.

well you might not have played much of windwaker, or you may have forgotten, but the screen offered by the gamepad improves the game tremendously. i agree that they should use the gamepad a lot more than they do. i feel like nintendo is letting me down in that regard because i love the gamepad.



Nicklesbe said:

They have stopped supporting the Wii U and have instead descided to support the 3Ds until the new console is released in the next few years.

 

Where'd you get this idea from? If anything it's the other way around.



Nicklesbe said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:


oh, i see. yeah, ive known that nintendo is releasing a console after the wii u since before the wii u was even out. and im sure theyll release a console after that. i fail to see the point youre making here though. do you think sony and microsoft are going to release new consoles?

"they arn't releasing a new console" . The point is they will be releasing a new console before the life of this one is done as was proven a long time ago. They will put support behind that console. They have stopped supporting the Wii U and have instead descided to support the 3Ds until the new console is released in the next few years.

when did they stop supporting the wii u? youre making a ton of assumptions. the wii u will get its standard 5 year life cycle, i wouldnt worry about it so much. the x1 and ps4 are going to be replaced as well.



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RubberWhistleHistle said:
Nicklesbe said:

Zombie U, Smash Bros, the newish super Mario bros, Mario Kart, Wind Waker remake and Bayonetta. Of those games I own and others I've played only Zombie U and mario 3d have any kind of real support for the touch pad, and no amiibos don't count in smash. Most of the time you are just looking at the second screen with no touch functionality.

well you might not have played much of windwaker, or you may have forgotten, but the screen offered by the gamepad improves the game tremendously. i agree that they should use the gamepad a lot more than they do. i feel like nintendo is letting me down in that regard because i love the gamepad.

I beat wind waker, was the first game I beat on it. Even got the wind waker bundle with the game pad with elvish embroidled in gold around it. It looks great and I love it but I never used it in windwaker. The only time I remember using it most was in Zombie U which I loved. I thought what they did with it was great and was dissapointed every game on there didn't have that same level of support for the pad. Use it now mostly for Netflix which is great and the web broswer is awesome. Honestly tho I get mad every time I hear a new game like fire emblem coming to 3ds when they should be comming to Wii U.



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Nicklesbe said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:

well you might not have played much of windwaker, or you may have forgotten, but the screen offered by the gamepad improves the game tremendously. i agree that they should use the gamepad a lot more than they do. i feel like nintendo is letting me down in that regard because i love the gamepad.

I beat wind waker, was the first game I beat on it. Even got the wind waker bundle with the game pad with elvish embroidled in gold around it. It looks great and I love it but I never used it in windwaker. The only time I remember using it most was in Zombie U which I loved. I thought what they did with it was great and was dissapointed every game on there didn't have that same level of support for the pad. Use it now mostly for Netflix which is great and the web broswer is awesome. Honestly tho I get mad every time I hear a new game like fire emblem coming to 3ds when they should be comming to Wii U.

zombiU is great, and its sad to see more developers havent tried to make more games like that. with windwaker, i found that the sailing parts and changing items during battle i found were a lot more fun with the gamepad fucntionality. and i also cant say enough good things about internet browsing with the wii u. the gamepad is a god send for that function. my wife and i browse the internet and watch youtube with it all the time.

by the way i requested this thread to be locked. so this will likely be the last post in it.



RubberWhistleHistle said:
Nicklesbe said:

"they arn't releasing a new console" . The point is they will be releasing a new console before the life of this one is done as was proven a long time ago. They will put support behind that console. They have stopped supporting the Wii U and have instead descided to support the 3Ds until the new console is released in the next few years.

when did they stop supporting the wii u? youre making a ton of assumptions. the wii u will get its standard 5 year life cycle, i wouldnt worry about it so much. the x1 and ps4 are going to be replaced as well.

I'm not making any assumptions. The evidence is there. They are constantly releasing games for the 3ds while the wii U isn't really getting any. If they are lucky they will get 4 years. Its going the same way the first Xbox went. Xbox ended their support early and only lasted 4 years. The same is happaning with the Wii U.



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RubberWhistleHistle said:

 umm.. yeah im not sure what you mean by the bolded statement. my whole argument here is that your choices are ps4/x1 or wii u. because those are the only two real "sides" that i see. so i dont see how they could have more exclusive content than the wii u? there is nothing shared between the wii u's library and the x1 and ps4's library, so however much more the ps4 or x1 have than the wii u, the wii u has the same amount of exclusivity over them.. since the library's of both are mutually exclusive from eachother. i hope i explained that well enough.

 

The basis of your argument is that because the PS4 and X1 are 'the same', while the WiiU is different, there are only two sides (PS4+X1 and WiiU). If the PS4 and X1 both had more exclusive games than the WiiU ('proper' exclusives that are only on a single platform), then the differences between the PS4 and X1 would actually be more significant than to the WiiU, which would matter more to a gamer than them being more similar overall.

Let's say there are 100 PS4 only games, 100 X1 only games, and 50 WiiU only games (and, for the sake of simplicity, every one of them is objectively identical in quality). If you buy a PS4 or X1, you lose out on 150 exclusives. If you buy a WiiU you lose out on 200. If you buy a WiiU + PS4 or X1, you lose out on 100. If you buy an X1 + PS4 you only lose out on 50. Thus, even if you already owned a PS4 or X1, you'd still benefit more from buying the other than a WiiU. That quite clearly sets the dynamic as PS4 vs X1 vs WiiU, not PS4/X1 vs WiiU.

Technically there would still be a larger overall gap between the PS4 or X1 vs the WiiU than PS4 vs X1, but that would only really be relevant if someone was making an argument like "the WiiU is different because it's missing all this stuff".

That all said, I do agree with you that anyone who owns [y] and says they hate everything about [x] while still buying multiplats is being silly. I very rarely see anyone do that though. Usually people just say they prefer one or the other, and everyone automatically knows they're referring to the unique parts of each (since it being about what they share would make no sense). To that extent the console warz between them makes just as much sense as it does with the WiiU (even now).