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ToraTiger said:

I actually agree with Nintendo 100% on this Angry Joe B.s.  I don't enjoy L.Ps or any other non-gaming hobby that isn't video games.  I don't watch Youtube at all, but I never got the point of letting gamers make millions using other people's products to make commentary and reactions on them.  Look at it this way, shouldn't a movie company get money where ever a channel on T.V plays their film?  It's the same thing in this case.  They're getting ad money by entertaining people with someone else's copyrighted product.  I think Nintendo did a good job, and I honestly wished other game devs made a similar policy. 

This is only a bad move because Nintendo is now losing a lot of advertising, but they're partner share program is fair imo besides the fact that your channel can only play nintenod games...

 

Also lol@ letting people making millions by playing video games and stream, and worst is letting them take all the proceeds themselves..  

I'll let you in on a little secret

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When people pay money for a product (in this case, buy a game) it's effectively their product and they can make whatever they want with it.  And they are not making money out of the game, but out of their lets plays and editorial videos which they put their own effort, talent and time into



ToraTiger said:
Holy chit people are still posting in here? Forgot all about this thread


This thread, which you created, is only two days old. 

Either you have memory problems or a very short attention span. 



Kane1389 said:
ToraTiger said:

I actually agree with Nintendo 100% on this Angry Joe B.s.  I don't enjoy L.Ps or any other non-gaming hobby that isn't video games.  I don't watch Youtube at all, but I never got the point of letting gamers make millions using other people's products to make commentary and reactions on them.  Look at it this way, shouldn't a movie company get money where ever a channel on T.V plays their film?  It's the same thing in this case.  They're getting ad money by entertaining people with someone else's copyrighted product.  I think Nintendo did a good job, and I honestly wished other game devs made a similar policy. 

This is only a bad move because Nintendo is now losing a lot of advertising, but they're partner share program is fair imo besides the fact that your channel can only play nintenod games...

 

Also lol@ letting people making millions by playing video games and stream, and worst is letting them take all the proceeds themselves..  

I'll let you in on a little secret

... 

When people pay money for a product (in this case, buy a game) it's effectively their product and they can make whatever they want with it.  And they are not making money out of the game, but out of their lets plays and editorial videos which they put their own effort, talent and time into


I'll let you in on a little secret

...

You're wrong.  When you pay money for this type of product (in this case, buy a game) you own only the physical product.  The characters, artwork, story, music, etc are all still owned by Nintendo.  You are not buying the intellectual properties or the explicit rights to use them however you want.   

Let's play videos are making money while using someone else's intellectual properties.  It doesn't matter if one causes the other.  It doesn't matter if every single viewer on their channel is there to watch their personality - they are still using someone else's property in the process. 

Nintendo's decision might not be the best business decision, but they are in their legal right to make it.  



meh ignoring what was all said in the thread and what other publisher may due all i can say is
the fact that people sit on youtube watching others play videogames while donating to them is dumb as fu*k in the first place.
trying to make money off of a recording of you playing a stupid ass video game and make money off it like you actually did something.



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ToraTiger said:
Holy chit people are still posting in here? Forgot all about this thread

Allow me to indulge in some playful deconstruction :)

This thread I see is two days old. You by contrast seem surprised that people are still posting...as if the thread was dug up to continue the conversation. I would like to inquire as to how old you are, and be honest. Because you sir are possibly a stereotypical millenial of todays world.

People who are always connected, who can never experience a moment of nothingness. Moving from social media to social media, from one article to the next, from one celebrity news to the latest tweets. It becomes a blurr. By the day ends, you can say you gained so much, whether it be knowedge from all the up-to-date news events you follow or friend activity, or just sheer entertainment from all the content you consumed.

Yet as shown here, you see so much, you fail to stop and smell the roses so to speak. You find it hard to recollect many places you visited online and when a familiar one is brought back to your attention, it seemed like forever since you last viewed it.But what you don't realize, is that most of it is not practical; you have little to show for all you experienced, save some conversation topics at the next social gathering you attend

Only two days passed. Makes you think doesn't it.

I would suggest picking favourites, whether it be social media or news sites to get your daily information. Take it in, but also appreciate what is going around you in the outside world.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 said:
ToraTiger said:
Holy chit people are still posting in here? Forgot all about this thread

Allow me to indulge in some playful deconstruction :)

This thread I see is two days old. You by contrast seem surprised that people are still posting...as if the thread was dug up to continue the conversation. I would like to inquire as to how old you are, and be honest. Because you sir are possibly a stereotypical millenial of todays world.

People who are always connected, who can never experience a moment of nothingness. Moving from social media to social media, from one article to the next, from one celebrity news to the latest tweets. It becomes a blurr. By the day ends, you can say you gained so much, whether it be knowedge from all the up-to-date news events you follow or friend activity, or just sheer entertainment from all the content you consumed.

Yet as shown here, you see so much, you fail to stop and smell the roses so to speak. You find it hard to recollect many places you visited online and when a familiar one is brought back to your attention, it seemed like forever since you last viewed it.But what you don't realize, is that most of it is not practical; you have little to show for all you experienced, save some conversation topics at the next social gathering you attend

Only two days passed. Makes you think doesn't it.

I would suggest picking favourites, whether it be social media or news sites to get your daily information. Take it in, but also appreciate what is going around you in the outside world.


Brilliant post.



torok said:


Why would IGN be legit doing a Nintendo video and a guy on YouTube wouldn't? Equal rights. Nobody wants a wild west on YouTube, that's why it has rules and bans guys that violate copyright. But Nintendo is threatening guys that simply are using their content under fair use rights.

I'm sick of this thread and people defending this kind of behavior. To put it simple, the other 2 let people do this and they even put a native DVR in the consoles to make it even easier: just one button press to share a video or stream it. They are embracing their communities, not trying to shut down it. What Nintendo will get? A lot of YouTubers will stop making Nintendo videos and will keep doing PS/XB/PC gameplays. They are important nowadays. If I'm planning to by a game, I will se a let's play. It's the best way to know if it's good or not without relying in the currently imprecise critics opinion.

This is 90s mindset. This is the exactly mindset that puts them in the fragile position they are today.

Certainly equal rights, but let's not go to say IGN = random Youtube video guy/gal.  Where IGN is an institution with a background, the random dude who came to youtube 11 months ago is wanting to get top pay for something he's just backpacking on anyways.  And they never threaten bodily harm, that's one thing.  If just to notify a dude using their images and IPs to stop, and using legal action, which is a right of NIntendo to have and to use, then how is that really a bad thing.  Clearly they see the backlash and have not remedied this.  Its not like they don't know.  There was a choice between control or free advertisment and they choose the former.

Nintendo does what no one else does.  They don't want this platform of video sharing.  It is a small part of their more grander business model.  This was a thing they tacked on to youtube because it was an unforseen opsticle.  That's how much they care about free advertisement.  The other 2 can do what they want with their business plans, but nintendo doesn't see it as an overall missed opportunity.  Let the other 2 have their bountiful amount of internet youtube stars.  Because Nintendo will have their own in the small pocket of Official Nintendo Youtube Partners.  Blue ocean baby.  Ready to spout out the things only Nintendo wants them to say.  They'll be the WWE of the game world.  Nintendo is Vince McMohan and all their youtube players will be their wreslters.  "No Michael Cole, don't say how much Cena sucks.  Do as I tell you!"  haha.  

This mindset in Nintendo is something they'll never get rid of.  Its to their benefit to keep this mindset even by being behind the times.  It's just Nintendo.  When everyone moved from cartridges to CD base, Nintendo kept at it, teathering on the brink of customer scrutiny and success.  Yet here they are making the same mistakes but maintaining their individuality no other company in their field can bolster.  They've always been in a fragile position, but that's the nature of the beast and they're still in the green.

Don't be sick of this thread, just come back with more ideas, that's how it becomes fun.



marley said:
Kane1389 said:

I'll let you in on a little secret

... 

When people pay money for a product (in this case, buy a game) it's effectively their product and they can make whatever they want with it.  And they are not making money out of the game, but out of their lets plays and editorial videos which they put their own effort, talent and time into


I'll let you in on a little secret

...

You're wrong.  When you pay money for this type of product (in this case, buy a game) you own only the physical product.  The characters, artwork, story, music, etc are all still owned by Nintendo.  You are not buying the intellectual properties or the explicit rights to use them however you want.   

Let's play videos are making money while using someone else's intellectual properties.  It doesn't matter if one causes the other.  It doesn't matter if every single viewer on their channel is there to watch their personality - they are still using someone else's property in the process. 

Nintendo's decision might not be the best business decision, but they are in their legal right to make it.  

They are not profiting out of their intelectual properties, that would be something like re-modding the game slightly and then reselling it or making mods based on nintendo characters like Link and Zelda in Skyrim and charging money for it.

Here, they are recording the gameplay of the game they bought, edit it and put it online.