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The weekly sales threads are not generating a lot of posts any longer, this is something I have noticed in the past few weeks. OP is right that the numbers should the number one priority; every other function besides sales is more or less exactly the same that you find on any other gaming site.

I still enjoy the site and community but I fear for its future when the debates and discussions are turning more and more away from the core concept of the site; hardware sales numbers. It is of some concern to me that the site it this quiet a mere 1.5 years after all the 8th contenders have hit the market; the sales dicussions were absolutely on fire in the early days and well into 2009 and 2010 for the 7th generation machines and market.



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Captain_Yuri said:
Yea, I hope this site gets back to its schedule cause this is getting quite nonsense. I hope ioi sees this


I haven't been here very long, but even last summer it seemed like the numbers got updated more regularly. 



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Mummelmann said:
The weekly sales threads are not generating a lot of posts any longer, this is something I have noticed in the past few weeks. OP is right that the numbers should the number one priority; every other function besides sales is more or less exactly the same that you find on any other gaming site.

I still enjoy the site and community but I fear for its future when the debates and discussions are turning more and more away from the core concept of the site; hardware sales numbers. It is of some concern to me that the site it this quiet a mere 1.5 years after all the 8th contenders have hit the market; the sales dicussions were absolutely on fire in the early days and well into 2009 and 2010 for the 7th generation machines and market.

Considering that debate over the unexpected manner in which sales performances for the 7th gen unfolded essentially drove traffic to VGC, maybe it shouldn't be quite a surprise that the general lack of debate over how the 8th gen has developed makes sales figures more of a market analyst concern rather than a non-professional product/company fan concern.

Nobody is really intelligently debating that Nintendo is going to turn the Wii U into a success, given that Nintendo is already outlining its replacement with a fairly open acknowledgement that the 8th gen has not developed as planned or estimated. It's tantamount to waving the white flag for this gen.

Debate over whether MS can turn the XBO into an eventual PS3 success (success being defined as rescued over multiple years following a near disastrous product launch) story is similarly lacking given the amount of flip flopping and general changes to the original platform vision with no significant changes to sales performance. 

When observers are simply looking at the sales figures (as you stated being the primary reason for VGC existing), there really isn't much excitement to be had barring the occasional crank post that makes the type of wild prediction or alternate analysis that really doesn't merit serious discussion. 

Sales-wise, the 8th gen has been fairly dull because SCE won early with no signs things will pan out any differently by the end of the generation. 

Maybe that's just where VGC is given the current state of the market. 



Zuhyc said:

Dear IOI,

I've been a visitor of this site since the summer of 2007, that's almost 8 years, back when there weren't any software numbers for Europe yet. So I've seen this site evolve over the years.

To be honest, it hasn't all been good. Many things have been added to the site, things I can honestly say I barely use. I did not come to this site to read gaming news or read (p)reviews. I came here for the numbers. The numbers are the one and only thing that distinguishes VGChartz from the many other gaming related websites. It is your core business and should get the utmost priority.

Yet, that's not what I'm seeing. I'm seeing this site expand by adding things like Gamrconnect and Gamrreview, hoping to get more visitors. I can only applaud the effort. Yet your core priority, THE very reason the majority of people come to this site, is lacking. Very much so. Other members have stated that we were spoiled in the past. But calling it spoiled is wrong. It was normal, and now the site has deteriorated.

How can you expect this business to grow when our numbers are weeks behind? Nobody cares for them anymore, only the hardcore visitors who'll analyze the data and want numbers of niche games. I'm sorry to say this, but business wise, you're not doing a very good job at the moment. I'm pretty sure that you will have noticed that the visitor numbers have been dropping in the past month. Not good for business.

At the very least, you have someone who you can contact in a case like this. (S)he can then announce on the site/forum that the data will be delayed and at the same time reassure us that everything is fine. Your own staff didn't know what was going on! Leaving us in the dark is not done.

Better would be to hire someone who can help you with the data. If you're sick, on a vacation or whatever, (s)he can continue to analyze and update the numbers so the site can keep functioning.

Another tip: The methodology page should be expanded. It already informs us that the data is extrapolated from a sample, but you can also add the fact that the data won't be 100 % accurate (and that NPD's data isn't as well), PLUS add a schedule at which each update will take place.

For example:

Tuesday: EMEA
Wednesday: Japan
Thursday: NA + ROW (leading to global sales)
(Friday: first day sales in Japan)

Recognize this? This was the update scheme 7 years ago. But whatever you put on the page, STICK TO IT! I can't emphasize this enough. For all I care you take an extra week to process the numbers (which I don't recommend because the fast numbers are one of the most important reasons people check them), but stick to your schedule!

I support this site and will continue to do so. My intention isn't too badmouth you or the site, I hope I'm not coming over that way. I do it because I am a fan and long time visitor. And I really want this site to be good. 

Kind regards,

Zuhyc

Edit: Quite some members complain about a malfunctioning mobile version of the site and the broken game database. The first should be on top of the to do list as well.

 


Is the same for me, I joined in 2007 or so, left when the site spread into 5 and got all cluttered in the main page, and after it got slimmer I have been coming back slowly, but onlybecuase I care about the numbers, but right now they are more than one month behind : /



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Same with me. 2007 member here and I sued to visit the site several times during a day and post a lot. Nowadays I mostly check it out at work from time to time and watch the Japanese numbers and the COMG preorder forum.

The site needs as up to date and correct as possible numbers if it wants to be back on the top.



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At first I thought that the site was going month to month until they updated the most recent numbers listed.

I'm now thinking that that they'll just keep non paying members in the dark for that extra month or so to make the vgc pro service more appealing.

I hope I'm wrong, though.



I agree with the mobile site part quite a bit. It's borderline spammy how often the site will force me to redirect to the Play Store for some app or another. I've cleared my cache several times to try to fix this, but it's ingrained into the site itself. How any professional can think it's appropriate to spam users is beyond me. Moreover, trying to back out to the previous thread isn't possible; hitting the back button will send you entirely to the previous part of VGC accessed in that tab. I.e., it will either send you to the previous page if you're in a thread, to the main page if you didn't go anywhere yet, or delete the tab altogether if you opened it in a new tab.



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Let's hope ioi will listen to our requests. Thanks for replying everyone!