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JEMC said:
Goatseye said:

TV show probably got done in 2014. That's not the problem.

Remedy is a small but ambitious studio. Whatever they do is grand and it takes time to complete, they never make a game with standard gameplay.

True.

They had a lot of problems with Alan Wake because they wanted to make it an open world game, it wouldn't be surprising if they are having issues now with all the time manipulation "thingy".

I think they're game is ready. The problem is that, MS gotta find a way to market a type of game they never had in their portfolio before.

Plus, the season where people buy more games is Fall/Winter (holidays); therefore the delay, they can't afford to present a new IP and shoulder it with Halo, Tomb Raider, Forza 6 (marketing time), COD, Ass Creed, etc...



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How is it a problem, these devs spend years on a game. Do you really not want to hear anything about it until a year or less before release? I don't, you shouldn't. I like following the process.

There are a lot of games that were announced at E3 2015 that are not out. The Division, Deep Down and more. It is just how things are.

Quantum Break though is getting pushed back for a great reason. Why release at the end of this year when there is so much competition? MS needs more Q1 and Q2 exclusives and this is a good start and a good reason to wait.



Goatseye said:
JEMC said:
Goatseye said:
 

TV show probably got done in 2014. That's not the problem.

Remedy is a small but ambitious studio. Whatever they do is grand and it takes time to complete, they never make a game with standard gameplay.

True.

They had a lot of problems with Alan Wake because they wanted to make it an open world game, it wouldn't be surprising if they are having issues now with all the time manipulation "thingy".

I think they're game is ready. The problem is that, MS gotta find a way to market a type of game they never had in their portfolio before.

Plus, the season where people buy more games is Fall/Winter (holidays); therefore the delay, they can't afford to present a new IP and shoulder it with Halo, Tomb Raider, Forza 6 (marketing time), COD, Ass Creed, etc...

I doubt they are holding it back.

I mean, from the games MSoft has for this year, the one that looks to be more in trouble is Fable Legends, so if there is one game that had to be delayed, that's the game that would benefit more from it by launching on a less crowded season.



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JEMC said:
Goatseye said:

I think they're game is ready. The problem is that, MS gotta find a way to market a type of game they never had in their portfolio before.

Plus, the season where people buy more games is Fall/Winter (holidays); therefore the delay, they can't afford to present a new IP and shoulder it with Halo, Tomb Raider, Forza 6 (marketing time), COD, Ass Creed, etc...

I doubt they are holding it back.

I mean, from the games MSoft has for this year, the one that looks to be more in trouble is Fable Legends, so if there is one game that had to be delayed, that's the game that would benefit more from it by launching on a less crowded season.

Fable troubled? Nah, that game has been in closed beta for almost 6 months.

It's mostly a mp game, it's not a full fledged Fable.



JEMC said:

Yeah, I agree that some games get revealed too early and that this is not good. But in the case of Quantum Break there is one external factor that could have delayed the game, and that is the TV show.

Remember that this game was supposed to go along a TV show where the game showed one part of the story while the TV show did the same for the other side. But since MSoft closed/sold its Entertainment Studios, the series could have been scrapped and that in turn forced Remedy to incorporate the TV part of the story into the game, having to stop development until they knew how to do it.

That is, of course, if the TV show has been canned, because it could also be that the show is still a reality and that it's simply behind schedule, forcing the game to be delayed too.

This was exactly my thinking on the situation. I've heard very little about the show since the original announcement.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
My mistake, a 2014 release window was never officially confirmed.

I do still have a grievance with announcing games 3 years before they come out (Watch Dogs got slack for announcing the game 2 years before launch)


 I think regardless of whether oo not a release date/window was confirmed for Quantum Break....your argument still has merit.

Games are shown off way to early. Its probably a tactic used by the platform holders to build hype. Give the gamers a taste of whats to come...it also pushes the developers to try and achieve that expectation.

I think in some cases they set that expectation too high and it results in delays. The problem with delays is that by the time the game releases the industry might have changed and other games that push the boundaries have already been released.



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In MS favor, they had many games releasing near each other. In this case it was a smart move. Not only it was going to compete against MS first parties but also againt strong third parties games.



Shinobi-san said:
ArchangelMadzz said:
My mistake, a 2014 release window was never officially confirmed.

I do still have a grievance with announcing games 3 years before they come out (Watch Dogs got slack for announcing the game 2 years before launch)


 I think regardless of whether oo not a release date/window was confirmed for Quantum Break....your argument still has merit.

Games are shown off way to early. Its probably a tactic used by the platform holders to build hype. Give the gamers a taste of whats to come...it also pushes the developers to try and achieve that expectation.

I think in some cases they set that expectation too high and it results in delays. The problem with delays is that by the time the game releases the industry might have changed and other games that push the boundaries have already been released.


I think you shouldn't really show a game until it's about a year and a half out, max. It's not great for a publisher because yeah you build up hype and then need to delay the game because of expectations but the longer you push it back the more grand people's expectations are going to be (Watch Dogs). 



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They never stated anything about it being released in 2014.people assumed that. This was sits only delay. And I havent heard a word from you about other delays hm..



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Goatseye said:
JEMC said:
Goatseye said:

I think they're game is ready. The problem is that, MS gotta find a way to market a type of game they never had in their portfolio before.

Plus, the season where people buy more games is Fall/Winter (holidays); therefore the delay, they can't afford to present a new IP and shoulder it with Halo, Tomb Raider, Forza 6 (marketing time), COD, Ass Creed, etc...

I doubt they are holding it back.

I mean, from the games MSoft has for this year, the one that looks to be more in trouble is Fable Legends, so if there is one game that had to be delayed, that's the game that would benefit more from it by launching on a less crowded season.

Fable troubled? Nah, that game has been in closed beta for almost 6 months.

It's mostly a mp game, it's not a full fledged Fable.

Exactly, it's more like an mmo than a regular Fable game, and a lot of Fable fans don't care for it.

If there is a game that has the biggest chance of being overlooked and flop in sales, that one is Fable Legends. Therefore, launching it on a less crowded month would be a better idea.



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