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Could we see Nintendo adopt a similar strategy to what phone/tablet manufacturers do with more frequent upgrades? Something like this for example

Holiday 2016-NX Tablet, similar to Wii U specs/performance, able to handle Wii U-level visuals/ports at 540p, similar in size/form factor as Wii U gamepad with 7" screen, $249.99

Holiday 2017-NX Console, uses upgraded version of Tablet chipset (think Apple A8 vs Apple A8X) with 2x RAM, plays same games as Tablet at 1080p, $249.99

Holiday 2018-NX Portable, now that the tech is a bit more mature, able to use same chipset as Tablet in smaller form factor, 5 inch, 540p screen, $249.99

Holiday 2019-NX Tablet 2, uses the same more advanced chipset of Console, now plays games at 1080p, $249.99

Holiday 2020-NX Console 2, uses a more advanced version of Console/Tablet 2 chipset with more RAM, able to play same games as previous devices at 4k resolution, $249.99

Holiday 2021-NX Portable 2, uses same chipset as Console/Tablet 2, 5 inch, 1080p screen, $249.99

Holiday 2022-NX Tablet 3, uses same chipset as Console 2, 7 inch, 4k screen, $249.99

Holiday 2023-NX Console 3, uses more advanced version of Console 2/Tablet 3 chipset with more RAM, able to play same games at 8k resolution, $249.99

Holiday 2024-NX Portable 3, uses same chipset as Tablet 3/Console 2, 5 inch, 4k screen, $249.99

Maybe not exactly like this but something similar. Eventually Gen 1 devices won't be able to handle later generations game but still a solid 5-6 years before they stop getting support. Could something like this be a realistic scenario?



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No. Expectations of one market are not the same as the other. People buying dedicated gaming devices expect a minimal amount of support. Whether that support is supposed to continue or not, constant actual upgrades shatter consumer confidence as they feel support for their device is under endless threat. Also, those specs are atrocious. A Wii U level home console launching in 2017? Better be $99 if you don't want to be laughed out of the industry and even then it would be a joke. You realized by that time, used PS4s and Xbones will be at or bellow that price. Shoot, new ones will be getting close to that price if not being there already. Also, Nintendo making a raw tablet? What would compel them to do that? That market is over saturated; it is a bloodbath for anyone not already established. Sorry, but the whole strategy in the op is full of holes and overall a dreadful plan.



Nintendo needs to make things clear for the consumers. If they don't, we'll see another "WiiU is a Wii peripheral" situation. They won't make more hardware than needed, and definitively not a yearly specs upgrade.



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God I hope not... The idea is so bad



                  

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Maybe in the future, but probably not until at least 2020...



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Nuvendil said:
No. Expectations of one market are not the same as the other. People buying dedicated gaming devices expect a minimal amount of support. Whether that support is there or not, actual upgrades shatter consumer confidence as they feel support for their device is under endless threat. Also, those specs are atrocious. A Wii U level home console launching in 2017? Better be $99 if you don't want to be laughed out of the industry and even then it would be a joke. You realized by that time, used PS4s and Xbone will be at or bellow that price. Shoot, new ones will be getting close to that price if not being there already. Also, Nintendo making a raw tablet? What would compel them to do that? That market is over saturated; it is a bloodbath for anyone not already established. Sorry, but the whole strategy in the op is full of holes and overall a dreadful plan.


What do u mean a minimal amount of support? Each device is getting a minimum 5-6 years of support, games will scale up/down to each device so all games released during generation 2 will still be playable on generation 1 devices just at different resolution/graphic settings, it wouldn't be until generation 3 that gen 1 devices start to be unable to play latest games which is 6 years after release.

A Wii U level system can't succeed in 2017 just like a Gamecube level system couldn't succeed in 2006 when the rest of the industry was moving onto HD development and photo-realistic visuals......oh wait it sold 100 million and won the generation!!!!!! Obviously I'm not saying this device would sell on par or even close to Wii levels but selling 3-5 million/year (similar to GC/WiiU) is possible while being sold at a hefty profit.

I said with the same form-factor as Wii U gamepad so not a standard tablet.



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Darwinianevolution said:
Nintendo needs to make things clear for the consumers. If they don't, we'll see another "WiiU is a Wii peripheral" situation. They won't make more hardware than needed, and definitively not a yearly specs upgrade.


What's unclear? It's a single ecosystem available in 3 seperate form factors, no different than iPod/iPhone/iPad.

Also it's not a yearly upgrade, it's an upgrade every 3 years for each form factor.

Tablet-2016, Tablet 2-2019, Tablet 3-2022

Console-2017, Console 2-2020, Console 3-2023

Portable-2018, Portable 2-2021, Portable 3-2024

And it's not like Nintendo doesn't already have 3 seperate hardware form factors as it is, 2DS, New 3DS XL, Wii U. This would be less confusing to people because they can easily see that it's a family of devices.



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Captain_Yuri said:
God I hope not... The idea is so bad


Well obviously u don't like it because u are completely against the idea of Nintendo unifying their platforms.



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zorg1000 said:
Captain_Yuri said:
God I hope not... The idea is so bad


Well obviously u don't like it because u are completely against the idea of Nintendo unifying their platforms.

I am against them having the same games on both platforms... They can unify it all they want just as so long as they make the games use the respective platform's advantages (like the consoles' extra horse power) and not have the same games on both devices

But this isn't even about that... Consoles/Handheld =/= phones... It takes time to make games for consoles so having a yearly release would be a nightmare for the developers as well as many other things... Then again, expecting someone that came up with this horrible idea to understand the implications of this isn't worth it



                  

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zorg1000 said:
Nuvendil said:
No. Expectations of one market are not the same as the other. People buying dedicated gaming devices expect a minimal amount of support. Whether that support is there or not, actual upgrades shatter consumer confidence as they feel support for their device is under endless threat. Also, those specs are atrocious. A Wii U level home console launching in 2017? Better be $99 if you don't want to be laughed out of the industry and even then it would be a joke. You realized by that time, used PS4s and Xbone will be at or bellow that price. Shoot, new ones will be getting close to that price if not being there already. Also, Nintendo making a raw tablet? What would compel them to do that? That market is over saturated; it is a bloodbath for anyone not already established. Sorry, but the whole strategy in the op is full of holes and overall a dreadful plan.


What do u mean a minimal amount of support? Each device is getting a minimum 5-6 years of support, games will scale up/down to each device so all games released during generation 2 will still be playable on generation 1 devices just at different resolution/graphic settings, it wouldn't be until generation 3 that gen 1 devices start to be unable to play latest games which is 6 years after release.

A Wii U level system can't succeed in 2017 just like a Gamecube level system couldn't succeed in 2006 when the rest of the industry was moving onto HD development and photo-realistic visuals......oh wait it sold 100 million and won the generation!!!!!! Obviously I'm not saying this device would sell on par or even close to Wii levels but selling 3-5 million/year (similar to GC/WiiU) is possible while being sold at a hefty profit.

I said with the same form-factor as Wii U gamepad so not a standard tablet.

 

It doesn't matter if the support is planned to be there, constant spec updates give the APEARANCE that support could end at any moment.  Just look at the panic ensuing from the slight implication that the Wii U may possibly perhaps have a lifespan slightly smaller than five years.  Maybe.  Now imagine that kind of confidence erosion every single year.  Appearances matter, a very great deal.

 There were a host of factors surrounding the Wii's success that are no longer present today.  Things change.  HD was not a widespread thing in 2006 and HD development was in its infancy with early efforts not even comparing to later one.  The early fumblings and the ubiquity of standard def televisions helped mitigate the issues of the Wii's performance issues.  But even so, the Wii outperformed the original Xbox in real world performance, so your point is invalid.  It wasn't a giant leap like the 360 and PS3,  but it was a noticeable improvement over the GC.  That combined with early HD development issues and standard ref's widespread use in the early days did a lot to help the Wii avoid too much backlash.  And the Wii caught the attention of a neighboring demographic that is no longer interested at all in dedicated devices. And the Wii brought a reinvention of gameplay that captured imaginations;  that ain't happening in 2017 at $250 most likely.  

Also don't compare your proposal to the Wii.  The Wii was a cut above the original Xbox in real world performance and noticeably better than the GC.  What you are proposing would be like if the Wii was a pinch weaker than the Dreamcast.  The power gap between PS5 your proposed device would be so absurd as to be comical.