then why even be on this website? Serious question, not trying to be an ass. But there is a myraid of other sites you can go too, this one is based on sales.

That sort of mis-information on the part of ill-informed individuals is a long way from what you seem to be implying is an orchestrated campaign of negativity towards Nintendo. After all, the persons saying "woohoo Nintendo is gonna put its games on my phone / tablet!" may be reacting to a news article that is putting that move in a very positive light. Hence a positive news piece leading to a positive reaction, which is the complete opposite of what you've been trying to say in this thread. 

Find us an example of comments like "Nyah nyah, Nintendo is such a loser that it now has to abandon consoles and going go mobile only." I haven't yet seen a reaction of that nature to Nintendo's mobile gaming announcement. But you seem to be suggesting that those are the common online or mainstream media reactions people are having to Nintendo's initiatives.

You say all Nintendo needs to do to be relevant is release great games. But surely you will agree that Nintendo has done exactly that with Wii U, I certainly think they've released great games. And as a game developer they are about as prolific as any studio, so you can't really ask for them to release more games. So there must be something else Nintendo needs to do to regain relevance, or become more relevant, because just releasing great games isn't doing it.

I've always found it interesting how a minority of every fanbase tries to paint itself as the victims of unjust persecution. You'd almost think it was the result of singular retention rather than broad analysis ^^

Then so is this entire thread. You're upset that people on a sales forum are discussing the Wii U's sales performance. If sales mean nothing to you then those threads should be irrelevant too.

Fact of the matter is, on VGC when a console is doing poorly, it's going to be discussed in a more negative light because this is a sales discussion forum.

It's not like nintendo isn't releasing games for their systems

I know, but this is not a sales discussion

Nintendo is releasing a very small amount of games for the Wii U. IF they were releasing around the same amount AND had third party support that people actually cared for, no one would be complaining. But Nintendo screwed up with third party, they've done it multiple times now and now it's up to them to carry their product alone. Unfortunately, they weren't able to do it.

yes but are they CODs? are they FIFAs? GTAs? Im just using the game examples you used and adding COD. Its not that they arent releasing games I think its the KIND of games and the FREQUENCY of those games, at least partially.

wouldnt it be hard to discuss relevance without sales? Arent those two intertwined heavily?

Ok, you are right. What about software sales?