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Mnementh said:
Tachikoma said:
DanneSandin said:

Well, I have me a 3DS while I'm waiting, and my NES and SNES ^^

..and my gc, panasonic cube, gb, gbc, gbp, gbm, gba, n64, nes disk system, nes jr, wiiu, 3ds, 3dsll, n3ds, wii, dsl, dsi and virtuaboy.

Catch up will ya?

Well, as I said in another thread: not everyone has enough moneyto spend it on something that is seen as pure entertainment. For you, your job not only mean you have money, but also that these devices in some sort represent not only entertainment but are also connected to work. A mobile developer will have a smartphone and a car-designer will have a car. So don't be too smug about your console-collection.

Still, you also no Nintendo-hater obviously. Still you radiate often enough negativity towards Nintendo in a pretty vocal manner, so I would say you're biased against Nintendo.

Being critical of something does not make you a hater.

Also does Tachikoma work in the gaming industry or something? Cause that's what you made it sound like, unless you mean their moderating job in which case I hate to break it to you but I don't think mods get paid. If Tachikoma does work in the gaming industry and I was just not aware, then that's pretty cool!



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spemanig said:
MakeAccountLater said:
Very interesting read! One thing though, I just hope Nintendo doesn't focus too much of their "direct" time during E3 on this possible Nintendo app. Having an "advertizing app" is one thing, and good to attract lost wii/ds users, but what current wiiu/3ds owners want is fresh new content. So far 2015 has been quite a dissapointment (though MM3D is amazing) with regard to new games.

Too much attention on apps during E3 may just alienate their core audience...

Who am I kidding... When Xenoblade Chronicles releases, all will be forgiven, whatever they announce at E3


I've actually been thinking about that. I mean, technically mobile is now a core part of their gaming strategy going forward. I'm not sure if we'll learn about the app, or mobile games there. They could just leave it for a Nintendo Direct.

But I wouldn't count it out, even though it would frustrate me.

Well, if they're after their lost audience, it would make sense to introduce their app at a big event that gets worldwide coverage, also in mainstream media. So we will probably get to see at least some of their new strategy at E3. I'm just hoping they don't forget to wow us with big fall releases, because especially the release schedule for 3DS is pretty bleak...



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DexInDaJungle said:

Being critical of something does not make you a hater.

Also does Tachikoma work in the gaming industry or something? Cause that's what you made it sound like, unless you mean their moderating job in which case I hate to break it to you but I don't think mods get paid. If Tachikoma does work in the gaming industry and I was just not aware, then that's pretty cool!


Can we pretty please not do this here? The topic. Let's try and stay on it.



MakeAccountLater said:
spemanig said:


I've actually been thinking about that. I mean, technically mobile is now a core part of their gaming strategy going forward. I'm not sure if we'll learn about the app, or mobile games there. They could just leave it for a Nintendo Direct.

But I wouldn't count it out, even though it would frustrate me.

Well, if they're after their lost audience, it would make sense to introduce their app at a big event that gets worldwide coverage, also in mainstream media. So we will probably get to see at least some of their new strategy at E3. I'm just hoping they don't forget to wow us with big fall releases, because especially the release schedule for 3DS is pretty bleak...


They could do a stage show to showcase the new app and their business plan moving forward and then after (or even the next day) do a direct similar to last year where they only showcase games. Best of both worlds.

Edit: Sorry Spem, I was in the process of posting that last one before I saw your post. I'll back off now.



spemanig said:
DexInDaJungle said:

Being critical of something does not make you a hater.

Also does Tachikoma work in the gaming industry or something? Cause that's what you made it sound like, unless you mean their moderating job in which case I hate to break it to you but I don't think mods get paid. If Tachikoma does work in the gaming industry and I was just not aware, then that's pretty cool!


Can we pretty please not do this here? The topic. Let's try and stay on it.

This is what mobile does to people XD



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DeNA wasn't bought by Nintendo. They just own 10% of the shares.


Just saying.



MakeAccountLater said:

Well, if they're after their lost audience, it would make sense to introduce their app at a big event that gets worldwide coverage, also in mainstream media. So we will probably get to see at least some of their new strategy at E3. I'm just hoping they don't forget to wow us with big fall releases, because especially the release schedule for 3DS is pretty bleak...


I think this fall is pretty much set in stone already. Unless XCX come out in the West way earlier than expected, we'll be getting Star Fox, Zelda, and XCX this fall. Adding more to that would actually be too much.

We'll likely be getting news on 2016 games instead.



DexInDaJungle said:
Miyamotoo said:

Nintendo did not spend nothing, they buyed Dena shares for $100m and Dena buyed Nintendo shares for $100m.

This second paragraph is essential, but I dont agree that Nintendo mobile was not most important announcement.                                      

We already know that Nintendo unified account is coming, we already know they want account for smart devices, we already know that they want to have something like Android and iOS, we already know that successor for Nintendo Club coming this fall, but we didn't know they will release games for mobiles.

 


We didn't actually know any of the that except for the club Nintendo part. It was all rumors and speculation and most of them were just that Nintendo wanted to unify their handheld and home console markets. What is potentially happening after this announcement seems like a much bigger deal and I truly hope they can make it work.

Yes we did know all that, Nintendo was talked about that plans when talked about unifying their next consoles, January 2014. and Aprill 2014. at investitor meetings.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/140130qa/index.html

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/140508qa/index.html

Some of infos:

– Iwata wants to change the definition of the platform, previously it’s been devices-based, 3DS and Wii U are not compatible and users separate

 – Nintendo Network ID is important, also used for future handheld and console, will now include smart device, but won’t put Nintendo games

– Nintendo will “actively” use smart devices to “make connections with customers”

– Will use smart devices as a catalyst to encourage customers to use its Nintendo platformson smartphones

– Service is ID based and not device based, account relationship with customer, more users play game the lower the price

 – Smart device service application is not designed to make money, but as communication to users, act as a channel to users

– Iwata says he’s not aiming for short term revenue boost but the smartphone service app is aimed at building a bridge with customers and bringing more information on Nintendo. But he admits it’s hard for people to use the apps on a regular basis if it’s just for marketing purpose.

– Smart device service just advertising is not enough, it needs to be fun and engaging, connect with what people are talking good about

http://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-q3-2014-earnings-investor-briefing-roundup/




Hynad said:

DeNA wasn't bought by Nintendo. They just own 10% of the shares.


Just saying.


I know. Just lost the words while typing and couldn't think of a more pithy way to say "purchased a magority stake in their company" in the moment. Threads like these are usually the result of word vomit. That's why there are always so many typos. My bad.



Mnementh said:

Well, as I said in another thread: not everyone has enough moneyto spend it on something that is seen as pure entertainment. For you, your job not only mean you have money, but also that these devices in some sort represent not only entertainment but are also connected to work. A mobile developer will have a smartphone and a car-designer will have a car. So don't be too smug about your console-collection.

All of the consoles I own, baring the Panasonic cube (which I bought not to long ago) I bought myself, with my own money at launch, even back as far as the NES prior to working in the games industry, I'm critical where critical opinion is warranted, I have been and continue to be critical of games and platform holders where criticism is due, the issue is purely my bluntness which many can't handle.

As for the last part I clipped out, as the op has asked, don't drag the thread down into this, the entire narative started over a wrong assumption by another user.
OP has worked hard on the thread and you should respect that enough not to mess it up.

Anyway, as far as the OP goes, It's an interesting perspective, but i think the scopes a bit too wide for what Nintendo has in mind for mobile currently, I see the arrangement with DeNA a way of dipping in their toes without fully comitting to it, to test the waters and see how their fans, and potential new customers react, but more importantly, how the shareholders respond as it's been a request from major shareholders of Nintendo for them to open up to the Mobile market for some time now.

Until the ball gets rolling and we see the initial feedback from it, I don't think it would be wise to make any solid estimations on how far reaching, or limited the initiative will be.