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This is a thread that many people are not going to agree with, but it simply needs to be made. you guys can try to report me all you want, and you may get me out of here for awhile, but if speaking what i see as the truth is going to get me banned, then well, i guess that is how its going to be. as a great man once said, "give me liberty or give me death!"

anyways, now that the disclaimer is out of the way, i want to talk a little bit about what this industry has morphed into. it honestly wasnt that long ago that everything was going great in the industry. new ideas were being brought to the table, everyone was working hard, and it was all about being able to make a game that the most people enjoy. the incentive here is that by making a game that is well received by everyone, you build a reputation and name for yourself. this is a stark contrast to what we see today. what do we see today, people? we see little companies being sucked into bigger ones, great development teams slaving away being forced to make impossible deadlines, constant remakes/remasters of games from last generation, chopped up bits of game sold to us in spurts, only to be rereleased as the complete package (what it should have been in the fucking first place), we get shipped broken games because they know that they can just fix it later, marketing as a first priority and so on and so forth and so on and so forth. 

now all these things are pretty much bullshit, im sure we can all agree on that, right? and we shouldnt put up with it. i know i dont. dont you guys see that rockstar, for example, released gta V for ps3 and 360 knowing damn well they were going to sell it again a year later when the new hardware had some time to establish itself? how do you guys really feel about that? is that just ok, people shouldnt have a problem with that mentality? its a dispicable way to run things if youre in charge of developing games. when you guys hear that DmC is getting remade, God of War 3 (not a collection? fucking seriously?), devil may cry 4, sleeping dogs, this random game from last generation, and that random game from last generation, how does that make you feel? dont you feel that their efforts should be concentrated elsewhere? if that doesnt bother you, isnt it a problem that these people are just porting games from last gen as a cash grab? surely that is a problem.

i mean, lets be real here, guys, the only system to really come out with a  solid library of games is the Wii U. and to be, honest, i seriously would have said (back in late 2013) that Nintendo will get passed up in the games department before 2014 is over. but you know what, it hasnt happened. and you could be a huge ps4 fan and enjoying all kinds of games, but when you take a step back, common sense has to take over at some point. 

example: in the 6th generation, i thought the gamecube had the most fun and interesting games. while many would agree with that, i think we were all able to look at the ps2 and acknowledge the hell of a job it did bringing great titles to the ps2. not remasters, not cash grabs, not games that are 70% movie, im talking interactive, compelling, intelligent and creative software. 

anyways, im not trying to get off point too much, but just compare what is going on now to what was happening early 7th gen and before. everything was going great, and if you really think about it, games have not evolved in any way since, what? call of duty 4, gears of war, mass effect, bioshock, assassins creed. these were ground breaking and revolutionary titles, but this just doesnt cut it in 2015. really guys, what gameplay mechanics or ideas have really broken through since these games have been released? and you know what, it isnt going to change any time soon. and that is why the 8th gen will be the most uninspiring, pointless generation of gaming. ever. 

What's a fact again?

Worse than Gen 1 and Gen 2? Wow.

that the efficiency of a steam engine is  equivalent to the work done by the system in one cycle divided by the heat supplied to it (w/q) in accordance with the second law of thermodynamics.

thats a fact

but the other fact i was talking about.. well, just read the last line of the OP.

yeah, i thought about that, and yes. even worse than gen 1 and 2.

It's not a fact, it's a proposal for debate. If it was presented as such, I might take it more seriously and have an intelligent conversation about it.

it is a fact. what generation could be worse? (and leave gens 1 and 2 out of it because that would be a cheap shot)

I could swear this generation isn't over yet but apparently, it already ended and we have no new games coming out

Look, the thing is that while I agree this generation is filled with Remasters that shouldn't be made imo and last year had a bunch of games there were just facepalms in terms of launch but the thing is... Virtually every generation had their own sets of urks imo

Like okay, the 7th generation for example. The ps3 had this game called Lair where it lagged like up the ass on its second year and it launched with games called Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom (58 meta) and Genji: Days of the Blade (55 meta) and both were published by Sony!! Hmm, that kinda sounds familiar don't it? On the ps4, you have knack (54 meta) and Killzone SF (73 meta which is better than the 7th gen btw). And both gen launched with one game with 80+ meta! The ps4 launched with infamous and the ps3 launched with Resistance. Now the reason why I am making the comparison is that while the ps3 had a rocky launch, it turned out to be one of the best consoles ever by the end and the ps4 might do the same

And yes, I love my wiiU and I choose it over the ps4 for various reasons but that really doesn't mean that this entire gen is going to suck based on its 1.5sh years. There are plenty of games coming out this year that aren't just remasters and there will be plenty more in the coming years. Yes, I don't agree with the remasters of the 7th gen games but I really don't think 8th gen is going to be the worst gen ever based on right now

Another subjective fact of yours. Another angry rant. Its getting old now.

Well, technically we could call generation 4.5 the worst, the "oddball generation" (Sega CD, 32X, Philips CD-i, Virtualboy...). No company was saved from financial disaster (Sega) or everlasting shame (Nintendo, Philips...).

But seriously, in my opinion the thing that has damaged this gen the most is the lack of backwards compatibility. And that's weird, because the 7th gen had that problems with that too (360 had no bc, only a couple of models of PS3 had bc, and the same for the DS...). The lack of backwards compatibility allowed companies to remake games with little cost, very fast developement periods and they could keep the price of the PS360 edition as new because it is new again. It just makes too much sense. Is it good for the companies? Yes. Is it bad for gamers? If those remasters are made to games barely two or three years old, yes. People say that it's just another option, and you don't have to buy them, and they're right. But allowing to play last-gen games on your current gen system would be giving even more options.

If you add that to the mindset and business practises of most publishers, the rise of mobile and its effect on handhelds and home consoles, the higher costs of game developement, the condition of most japanese publishers (Capcom is still in finantial problems, Konami is losing its most important developer, Sega is borderline bankrupt, Nintendo can't sell as many consoles as it wants, Sony has to take care of every other sector of its business...), the quick evolution of PC gaming that keeps leaving consoles behind on the specs aspect... It's no wonder most companies are just playing it safe and not releasing incredibly risky things.

I still defend that the PS3 and 360 could have lasted until 2017-2018. They may not be able to reach PC power, but I doubt that most games released on PS4-XBone couldn't work almost identical on last gen.