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I said in late 2014 that UK is heavy overtracked here.

The only thing we knows is:

- Both consoles passed 1m
- The sales ratio when PS4 passed 1m was 1.5:1



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My personal estimates to UK @ End of January (considering PS4 sold more in Nov + Dec):

PS4: 1.7-1.8m
Xbone: 1.2-1.3m

PS. I'm more inclined to close 1.8m/1.2m than 1.7/1.3m to hold the 1.5:1 ratio.

Edit - That's confirms Xbone is a lot overtracked in Europe and others because VGC do the Europe + Others sales based on UK estimates... it can be below 11 million yet.



ethomaz said:

My personal estimates to UK @ End of January (considering PS4 sold more in Nov + Dec):

PS4: 1.7-1.8m
Xbone: 1.2-1.3m

PS. I'm more inclined to close 1.8m/1.2m than 1.7/1.3m to hold the 1.5:1 ratio.

Edit - That's confirms Xbone is a lot overtracked in Europe and others because VGC do the Europe + Others sales based on UK estimates... it can be below 11 million yet.

I personally believe that both the PS4 and XB1 are overtracked in Europe. And yes the XB1 has probably passed 11 million WW. And there's no way Germany or France is on par with the UK for PS4 numbers. Anyway as we see the PS4 and XB1 where heavily undertracked in the US this month, so I see NA picking up some of the slack. However I don't see the European countries picking up anything for the PS4 or XB1.



super6646 said:

I personally believe that both the PS4 and XB1 are overtracked in Europe. And yes the XB1 has probably passed 11 million WW. And there's no way Germany or France is on par with the UK for PS4 numbers. Anyway as we see the PS4 and XB1 where heavily undertracked in the US this month, so I see NA picking up some of the slack. However I don't see the European countries picking up anything for the PS4 or XB1.

PS4 numbers are right... they need remove from UK (overtracked) and add in others EU/RoW countries... it needs to be 20.2m at end of February... no question here.

Germany and UK are really close numbers for PS4:

October 21st 2014 = 1 million in Germany
September 7th 2014 = 1 million in UK

I can say when Germany hit 1 million UK had ~1.1m to PS4.

Xbone is definivily overtracked in EU/RoW... and yes I guess today it passed 11m already but not at end of February.



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ethomaz said:

My personal estimates to UK @ End of January (considering PS4 sold more in Nov + Dec):

PS4: 1.7-1.8m
Xbone: 1.2-1.3m

PS. I'm more inclined to close 1.8m/1.2m than 1.7/1.3m to hold the 1.5:1 ratio.

Edit - That's confirms Xbone is a lot overtracked in Europe and others because VGC do the Europe + Others sales based on UK estimates... it can be below 11 million yet.

ethomaz said:

I said in late 2014 that UK is heavy overtracked here.

The only thing we knows is:

- Both consoles passed 1m
- The sales ratio when PS4 passed 1m was 1.5:1

 

Ur assumtion is wrong

We also know, that the XB1 sold 1 million as of 15th November 2013 (afther outselling Ps4 for 3 weeks. the sunset overdrive week, the cod week and the halo week) http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/xbox-one-sells-1m-in-the-uk/0141711
We also know, that next gen sold 240k units the black friday week with xb1 being shlighly ahead (within 1k units or so)
And that week was an 120% increase over the previuos week, wich the xb1 sold most, too
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=141774907&postcount=216

that alone would add 180xb1 consoles

 

and now u want to assume xb1 only sold 15k or even just 115k units the whole december and january (while one week in november easy sold more) in the second biggest home console market in the world?


xb1 is at 1.4m or maybe even more as of end of january
but that does not mean ps4 is at 1.6m only. that number is to low, too
the only reasonable answer would be the "more than 3 million" phrase being at least 3.09million or even 3.1x million or more

 

both xb1 and ps4 sold a shit load of units november and december in uk



kivi95 said:
Overtracked combined by ~ 400k then on vgchartz :/


Probably the Xb1 has the bigger part of that.

I think vgcharts is over tracking sales of XB1 outsides the US.



huntersman said:

Ur assumtion is wrong

We also know, that the XB1 sold 1 million as of 15th November 2013 (afther outselling Ps4 for 3 weeks. the sunset overdrive week, the cod week and the halo week) http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/xbox-one-sells-1m-in-the-uk/0141711
We also know, that next gen sold 240k units the black friday week with xb1 being shlighly ahead (within 1k units or so)
And that week was an 120% increase over the previuos week, wich the xb1 sold most, too
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=141774907&postcount=216

that alone would add 180xb1 consoles

 

and now u want to assume xb1 only sold 15k or even just 115k units the whole december and january (while one week in november easy sold more)? in the second biggest home console market in the world?


xb1 is at 1.4m or maybe even more as of
but that does not mean ps4 is at 1.6m only. that number is to low, too
the only reasonable answer would be the "more than 3 million" phrase being at least 3.09million or even 3.1x million or more

 

both xb1 and ps4 sold a shit load of units november and december in uk

PS4 sold more in November + December... so if you think Xbone sold 1.4m you will need to add more than these 400k to PS4 not including what it sold in September/October.

It will give you more than 1.6m and more than 3m for PS4 + Xbone.

That is not possible... sorry... for more than Xbone sold in Nov and Dec... PS4 sold more... that is pure maths.

Best possible number for Xbone is 1.3m... my estimates is more close to 1.2m to be fair.



ethomaz said:

huntersman said:

Ur assumtion is wrong

We also know, that the XB1 sold 1 million as of 15th November 2013 (afther outselling Ps4 for 3 weeks. the sunset overdrive week, the cod week and the halo week) http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/xbox-one-sells-1m-in-the-uk/0141711
We also know, that next gen sold 240k units the black friday week with xb1 being shlighly ahead (within 1k units or so)
And that week was an 120% increase over the previuos week, wich the xb1 sold most, too
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=141774907&postcount=216

that alone would add 180xb1 consoles

 

and now u want to assume xb1 only sold 15k or even just 115k units the whole december and january (while one week in november easy sold more)? in the second biggest home console market in the world?


xb1 is at 1.4m or maybe even more as of
but that does not mean ps4 is at 1.6m only. that number is to low, too
the only reasonable answer would be the "more than 3 million" phrase being at least 3.09million or even 3.1x million or more

 

both xb1 and ps4 sold a shit load of units november and december in uk

PS4 sold more in November + December... so if you think Xbone sold 1.4m you will need to add more than these 400k to PS4 not including what it sold in September/October.

It will give you more than 1.6m and more than 3m for PS4 + Xbone.

That is not possible... sorry... for more than Xbone sold in Nov and Dec... PS4 sold more... that is pure maths.

Best possible number for Xbone is 1.3m... my estimates is more close to 1.2m to be fair.


i know that ps4 sold more in december and with that gap even more in november and december combined (probably very slightly, but doesn't matter)
yes, if xb1 sold 350k in november + december, the ps4 sold 350k + x units

 

1m ps4 was early/mid september
1m xb1 was mid november

240k xb1+ps4 the last week of november
110k xb1 + ps4 the previous week of november

xb1 sold the most for the last week of october and all weeks of november
ps4 sold the most for november and december combined (so the ps4 outsold the xb1 in december by enough units to negate the november salesgap)

 

december ist still the best selling month for home consoles. (december is also 5 weeks, while november is just 4 weeks) so its 99,9% safe to assume december sales are > november sales
400k xb1 + ps4 is my lowest estimate for november (only 50k xb1 + ps4 for 2 weeks in november the cod and halo week)
400k xb1 + ps4 is my lowest estimate for december

 

 

that 3m figures seems to be way to low.
3.2 or even 3.3 seems more likely
it's either that, or the ps4 sold nealry nothing between september and november - that's is impossible
or december sales crased hard and both nexgen consoles sold only 50% of its november sales - that's highly unlikely, too

 



Xbox outsold PS4 in November and has been close ever since so the gap isn't 1.5:1 anymore.