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Honestly, I love to go back and play old games through emulation. Especially since I never owned a Dreamcast I was interested in the games it had to offer, but the few games I found that were interesting to me were ported to other consoles, anyway. I'm not a huge Sonic fan, not a huge fan of the fighting genre, Shenmue is interesting, but not overly interesting to me that I've prioritized it yet, and the rest of the games which interested me were either 5th generation ports or ported to the other platforms after the Dreamcast died. I do love Skies of Arcadia though, which I've played on GC. Honestly, I guess you have to have been there to enjoy the Dreamcast.



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BMaker11 said:

I said this a while ago:

We are nostalgic for the DC because it got canned. But was it the "best console ever", as some have said? No!

Yes, it had great games like Sonic Adventure, Power Stone, Shenmue, 2K Sports games exclusive, Jet Set Radio, etc. We're fond of those games and they are the shining examples of the DCs library. But we never stop and remember: that's all it had. DC was on the market for what, 2 years? When thought about rationally, does its library really compare to Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, GTA, MGS, SoTC, Dragon Quest, God of War, Jak and Daxter, DMC, Okami (I could go on forever) etc. for the PS2? What about Halo, Blinx, Jade Empire, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Forza, Morrowind, KOTOR, etc for the Xbox? And that's just games from the same generation as DC.

As I said when I first made this comment: let's keep our fond memories of the DC as just that. Memories. Because when you're objective about the console, it's not even in the top 5 of best consoles ever.

You forgot Code Veronic, Soul Calibur and Sonic Adventure 2 as it is superior to the original. The massive titles you listed all came out in a year and a half. How long did it take for PS2 to release all of the games you listed? like 7 years?

Also you're just generalizing here. Dreamcast had a shitload of gems no one talks about as Metacritic doesn't give them praise, but they were awesome games.

Ikaruga, Alien Front Online, Headhunter, Demolition Racer, Test Drive Lemans, Toy Comander, Swords of Berserk, Gigawing 2...all amazingly fun games where it mattered the most, gameplay

Fuck, it had few games released in the last 2 years that are better than some major PS4 and Xbox One games. Gunlord and Sturmwind.

Look at this awesomeness... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zy2k_iwJDY

You're telling me that you'd rather play The Order over that?



I don't think so.

Though I will say that there was a time when I was all over the Dreamcast, and thought it was the best console ever



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Leave the Dreamcast alone!

Poor little thing can't defent itself after being dead for 14 years.



disolitude said:
BMaker11 said:

I said this a while ago:

We are nostalgic for the DC because it got canned. But was it the "best console ever", as some have said? No!

Yes, it had great games like Sonic Adventure, Power Stone, Shenmue, 2K Sports games exclusive, Jet Set Radio, etc. We're fond of those games and they are the shining examples of the DCs library. But we never stop and remember: that's all it had. DC was on the market for what, 2 years? When thought about rationally, does its library really compare to Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, GTA, MGS, SoTC, Dragon Quest, God of War, Jak and Daxter, DMC, Okami (I could go on forever) etc. for the PS2? What about Halo, Blinx, Jade Empire, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Forza, Morrowind, KOTOR, etc for the Xbox? And that's just games from the same generation as DC.

As I said when I first made this comment: let's keep our fond memories of the DC as just that. Memories. Because when you're objective about the console, it's not even in the top 5 of best consoles ever.

You forgot Code Veronic, Soul Calibur and Sonic Adventure 2 as it is superior to the original. The massive titles you listed all came out in a year and a half. How long did it take for PS2 to release all of the games you listed? like 7 years?

Also you're just generalizing here. Dreamcast had a shitload of gems no one talks about as Metacritic doesn't give them praise, but they were awesome games.

Ikaruga, Alien Front Online, Headhunter, Demolition Racer, Test Drive Lemans, Toy Comander, Swords of Berserk, Gigawing 2...all amazingly fun games where it mattered the most, gameplay

Fuck, it had few games released in the last 2 years that are better than some major PS4 and Xbox One games. Gunlord and Sturmwind.

Look at this awesomeness... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zy2k_iwJDY

You're telling me that you'd rather play The Order over that?

Actually, FFX (2001), KH (2002), GTA3 (2001), MGS2 (2001), SoTC (2005), DQVIII (2004), Jak and Daxter (2001), DMC1 (2001), Okami (2006). Most of them came out in the first 2 years, none of them took 7 years, and I could have easily picked other games (such at GT3 or Ratchet and Clank) that came out relatively early in the PS2s life.

And the Xbox had it's library in and out in 4 years, yet we still got the games I listed and more.

I never said DC wasn't a fun console, that the games sucked, etc. I'm just saying, it only lasted 2 years. There are great games in there, but because the console got discontinued, there's limitations to the amount of games it had. All those great games you named, I could go like for like with the PS2, PS1, OG Xbox, SNES, etc. and have more games on each console, to boot. Even the "gems no one talks about because of Metacritic". And they'd all be great games with great gameplay. Had the DC lasted longer, we'd be having a very different conversation.



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The Dreamcast is truly one of the great consoles.

For one thing, it had a ton of exclusives. Shenmue, Crazy Taxi, Resident Evil Code: Veronica, Soul Calibur (a 10/10 fighting game), Jet Set Radio, Power Stone, Marvel vs. Capcom 2, Seaman, Grandia 2, Samba de Amigo, Skies of Arcadia, etc. etc.

It also got GREAT multiplats like: Legacy of Kain 2, Tony Hawk 2, Quake III, Unreal Tournament, Ready 2 Rumble,
Rayman 2, etc. etc.

And its sports series blew away EAs.

The problem with the Dreamcast is even though it was a huge step ahead of the other consoles, it was also hugely outdated at the same time.

It had online play and even an online service (SegaNet), but used a 56K modem.

It had an advanced controller with VMUs, but only one analog stick and no bumpers.

It had GD-ROM discs that held 1.2 GB, but no DVD player to hold 4.5GB

Its graphics blew away PS1/N64s, but wouldn't have been great past 2002



I thought it was overrated a long time ago



                  

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Never owned a Dreamcast, but I've played some of its praised games. The mascot games, Sonic Adventure 1/2, were absolutely terrible, so I don't get it either.



It was okay... There are people that think highly of the Dreamcast, but that depends on who you talk to. Therefore, the people who like the Dreamcast vs those who don't sort of balances out.



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It did have a lot of quality software in the very short period of time it lasted. If you compare its first year to the first year of other consoles, it's one of the best. Definitely better than the first year of all the current gen consoles put together IMO. But I wouldn't consider it top ten when compared against the entire lifespan of all other consoles.



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