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might as well just change the title to "iwata confirms NX will lack 3rd party support". it would be a harsh title but a close reflection of reality.



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No Iwata.... you're wrong... The effort to challenge how we play is noble and admirable, but it's wrong... Don't do this to yourself Iwata, and Ninten :



 

              

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Ahh so much disbelief, people. Weren't you surprised with the Wii U reveal?

What worries me is that Nintendo didn't learn its lesson from Wii U marketing.

These last few years of the Wii U better turn into something great on marketing terms.



Ka-pi96 said:
Cloudman said:
No Iwata.... you're wrong... The effort to challenge how we play is noble and admirable, but it's wrong... Don't do this to yourself Iwata, and Ninten : < Just look at your competitors. They get it. Don't lose again...

Yeah, especially Microsoft. They didn't get at first and it went really bad for them and forced them to learn their lesson quick.


I didn't wanna say names, but... yeah... ; ) If ninten wants to stay competitive, they gotta stop with the tricks... : < Unless they have another Wii up their sleeves B^ ) Though I do admire that Ninten stuck to their idea.



 

              

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Ka-pi96 said:

There's no reason they couldn't have a solid base to work from that is similar to PS/Xbox as well as trying new and different things. Besides I think it should be the games that differentiate the consoles, not the hardware.

1. Those new and different things will likely have costs involved. Nintendo, as a company, likes to keep everything profitable. That is something they failed to do with the Wii U, and that is one of the reasons why they aren't as successful (higher profit margins -> lower costs -> lower retail price to move up demand curve -> higher sales ->(if done right) higher profits -> repeat.

2. Games and hardware are not independent entities. The games you play depend on the hardware you have. Furthermore, in an age where the best selling and majority of games are multiplatform, you need to differentiate your exclusives and make them unique. If anything can be said about Nintendo, it can be said that they are very able to make their already used IP's unique with new hardware. If Nintendo bites off more than it can chew, then it ends in a situation where there is no third party support AND no Nintendo support. That is a bad situation. 



Ka-pi96 said:
zorg1000 said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Sounds bad.

Don't want any surprises, don't want any gimmicks. Just give us a standard console with all the features people expect from consoles these days, great 3rd party support and plenty of good 1st party games. That's all you need to do Nintendo, please don't screw it up.

I like that Nintendo is always trying to come up with new things, I don't get why people want 3 nearly identical consoles, if u want something like PS4 or XB1........just get a PS4 or XB1, that's just my opinion tho.

There's no reason they couldn't have a solid base to work from that is similar to PS/Xbox as well as trying new and different things. Besides I think it should be the games that differentiate the consoles, not the hardware.

But what will being similar to PS/XB gain them? Third party games that won't sell? People seem to forget that Gamecube did have pretty solid 3rd party support while being powerful and cheap and that didn't do much for them.

The hardware is many times necessary to differentiate the games, things like DS & Wii wouldn't have been nearly as successful if they were just standard upgrades to GBA & GC.



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zorg1000 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

There's no reason they couldn't have a solid base to work from that is similar to PS/Xbox as well as trying new and different things. Besides I think it should be the games that differentiate the consoles, not the hardware.

But what will being similar to PS/XB gain them? Third party games that won't sell? People seem to forget that Gamecube did have pretty solid 3rd party support while being powerful and cheap and that didn't do much for them.

The hardware is many times necessary to differentiate the games, things like DS & Wii wouldn't have been nearly as successful if they were just standard upgrades to GBA & GC.


I guess it must have been because of its lunch box design and handle. :^ ) That ain't hip at all.



 

              

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Its going to be different than the other consoles, and thats a good thing. I dont know why people wants the same console with 3 differetn labels.



Cloudman said:
zorg1000 said:

But what will being similar to PS/XB gain them? Third party games that won't sell? People seem to forget that Gamecube did have pretty solid 3rd party support while being powerful and cheap and that didn't do much for them.

The hardware is many times necessary to differentiate the games, things like DS & Wii wouldn't have been nearly as successful if they were just standard upgrades to GBA & GC.


I guess it must have been because of its lunch box design and handle. :^ ) That ain't hip at all.


If the "hardcore" crowd isnt going to buy Nintendo hardware because of its shape then I'm pretty sure there is nothing Nintendo can do to win that crowd.



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