People have been complaining for years that consoles are starting to become more and more like PCs and with the start of the new generation, this argument has become more of a hot topic. The fact is that consoles have evolved, you can't expect a console to get more complicated without it becoming something which is more complicated. This mentality that consoles are still plug in and play has to change, you can't go and buy a console and expect it to instantly load games of your disk, since most games today are well over 50GB since guess what games themselves have become more complicated. If you can't stand this change that consoles are going through, then please go buy a pc or continue playing on any sixth generation console.

tl;dr: Consoles need to become PCs #DealWithIt

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Wait? Is this a thing? Aren't consoles just gaming focused, plug and play PCs? Isn't that what they've pretty much always been...

ReviewtechUSAs video is total BS and misinformation. The ps4 lets you play almost every game while installing the game at the same time unlike PCs


My personal expierence

physical Games i could play while installing
Alien isolation = sega
Order 1886 = sony
last of us = sony
Evil within =Bethesda
Knack =sony
Tomb raider =SquareEnix

Downloadable Demos and betas i had to wait for installing before i could start them despite having allready downloaded
Battlefield hardline beta= EA
destiny demo = Activision

Oh, I've dealt with it. I've always been an eager PC gamer but now that's what I am almost exclusively.

Famicom.

Family Computer.

Well it's either this or a €600 console. Of course I'm not a fan of installation, but it takes max 30 min and you can play after 5-10 min. Console are still much more convenient than PCs in many ways.

I don't like installation of games on HD's in consoles unless they are downloaded games. If anything they need to learn how to decompress on the fly, or just create a better medium to feed the data at a better rate. That or actually use compression on discs, transfer the data compressed and decompress on the fly, and learn better ways of doing that. There have been huge leaps made in decompression on the fly, there isn't much reason to not use it, especially with so much RAM on these systems.
There are definitely times I miss game carts. in the day of instant gratification they just make more sense.

I saw this argument a while back, maybe 15 years ago.... Didn't end so well for the PC supporters.

They used to be.  Now it's more along the lines of 'plug and sign in and install and update and play and then buy the rest of the game.'

Yes. Deal With It. Because they've changed and will never ever ever change again and never ever ever should!

Just because these changes happened doesn't mean the trend is wise. Doesn't mean the circumstances that motivated the change won't shift. It's already begun. The multimedia aspects that consoles have given themselves over to (that caused the bloat of pc-esque multitasking which is the real issue, not just installs) are being absorbed into numerous devices that are easier to get. All that fluff is going to be meaningless filler that should be cut. IMO, as this trend continues, there may very well be a race to convenience and specialization, where the one who can recapture that in a quality experience will win out. I would not be shocked if in the next gen or two, consoles don't start looking for new medium alternatives to discs to try and eliminate the need for installs and/or ridiculous load times.