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mountaindewslave said:

just throwing out a concept- is it possible that Nintendo is going to release it's own smart phone of sorts that will be a mix of a video game handheld and a phone? that way they can sort of go into 'smart phone' gaming yet still retain their video game hardware and software sales (at least for the mobile division). obviously their games would only be accessible / playable on this new smartphone / handheld console

 

that's the only thing I can think of

Don't know about phone.  But they could integrate a 4G network integration with their next handheld via a partnership with a phone company to make online gaming and downloads less of a hastle on mobile in the western world where WiFi isn't as reliably omnipresent :P .

But they said pretty clearly that the whole mobile thing is going to be...well a mobile thing, built from the ground up for the current mobile market space.  SO I don't think this would be a particularly beneficial appraoch.  They seem to desire segregation of handheld, mobile, and console in terms of game experience, not blending. 



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DanneSandin said:

What Nintendo needs to do to get third party support is drawing in that audience themselves first. Nintendo fans dont buy Ass Creed, GTA or CoD - Nintendo needs to make those kind of games first a d draw that audience to Nintendos consoles. And if they keep on ignoring 3rd parties and powerful consoles they might as well quit home console gaming all together; Wii U is a pretty good base line for Nintendo fans oit there. And theyre not enough to make home consoles worth it for Nintendo


Dude, don't make it more difficult then it really is. Nintendo doesn't have to teach anyone how to play CoD, AC or GTA. Nintendo gamers already buy and play these games, they just do it on PS or Xbox. Why? Cause these games are better on these platforms! Compare AC IV - Wii U is easily the worst version and it is all because of Nintendo and its stupid mistakes. The game plays like the PS360 game, yet doesn't have trophies/achievements and it's an obvious downgrade when compared to the PS4/Xbone versions. Why would a reasonable gamer pay the same price for an inferior version of a game? What Nintendo has to do is allow 3rd parties to make ports that are on par with the competition - drop the PowerPC architecture and give current-gen hardware. 3rd parties are designing their games with PS4/Xbone scope in mind and Nintendo has to deliver here or they can get lost - 3rd parties won't care about them, neither will gamers sans a handful fanboys. It's a business, you either deliver or get left behind. Happened to Sony with Vita and happens to Nintendo with Wii U.



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DanneSandin said:
Mr Khan said:
DanneSandin said:
Captain_Tom said:

NX is coming out next year.  No doubt about it.  They're latest attempt failed misserably and they need to respawn as soon as possible.  Heck I think AMD even said they are already done designing a console that is launching next year...

I imagen the NX will be BOTH a handheld and a home console; they will have certain shared features and compatabilities, maybe even some games. Releasing a new home console next year would mean that PS5 and XB2 would be severaly mpre powerful than Nintendos next effort. And we all saw how bad that went down this gen. 

Nintendo has no reason to care any more. Any chance they had of getting third party multiplats died when third parties gave up on Wii U even before they dropped PS3 and 360. Nintendo will get whatever exclusives they can rope in and whatever they can produce by themselves from this point forward.

What Nintendo needs to do to get third party support is drawing in that audience themselves first. Nintendo fans dont buy Ass Creed, GTA or CoD - Nintendo needs to make those kind of games first a d draw that audience to Nintendos consoles. And if they keep on ignoring 3rd parties and powerful consoles they might as well quit home console gaming all together; Wii U is a pretty good base line for Nintendo fans oit there. And theyre not enough to make home consoles worth it for Nintendo

Lateral thinking with withered technology has served them well when that "withered tech" doesn't include a $100 tablet controller.

Especially with rumors of the fusion concept. Wii U's problem isn't the lack of Nintendo fans, it's that core gamers who aren't seriously into Nintendo games are content getting their Nintendo fix on 3DS. One device (or two closely interlocked devices) fixes that problem, and keeping the hardware price low but profitable while keeping that Nintendo quality going on the games, and you've got a broader base than what Wii U's stuck with.



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Dusk said:
Burek said:
This is an announcement that needed to be made, to lower the impact of people announcing Nintendo leaving hardware business.
Probably announced next year for 2017 launch.


LOL! That's funny. Rather ridiculous. With games and consoles being their main pillar of the business, and it's still entirely profitable for them, it would make no sense for them to leave the hardware business. It's just absurd. 

This is likely either dealing with their QOL platform, or a separte smart phone venture. Possibly both since they might go hand in hand. It's not like Nintendo is a sinking ship or anything like that, they are still profiting quite well from their softwear and hardware, but it would be unwise of them to no look into different expanding markets in order to stay relevant. 

Every venture is risky. They would be mental to try a new direction for a new division of their company without supporting their foundation (games and consoles). That would be a move that could destroy Nintendo as a business in one fell swoop, even with the massive amounts of money they have in the bank. 

What you are suggesting, would be like Star Bucks dropping coffee to bring in more pastries and start selling insurance (or something else very different from coffee). 

I think he's saying that Nintendo needed to announce this so "people" (media, internet, etc) didn't assume and start rumors that Nintendo was leaving the hardware business.



Scisca said:
DanneSandin said:

What Nintendo needs to do to get third party support is drawing in that audience themselves first. Nintendo fans dont buy Ass Creed, GTA or CoD - Nintendo needs to make those kind of games first a d draw that audience to Nintendos consoles. And if they keep on ignoring 3rd parties and powerful consoles they might as well quit home console gaming all together; Wii U is a pretty good base line for Nintendo fans oit there. And theyre not enough to make home consoles worth it for Nintendo


Dude, don't make it more difficult then it really is. Nintendo doesn't have to teach anyone how to play CoD, AC or GTA. Nintendo gamers already buy and play these games, they just do it on PS or Xbox. Why? Cause these games aren't on nintendo platforms! Compare AC IV - Wii U is easily the worst version and it is all because of Nintendo and its stupid mistakes. The game plays like the PS360 game, yet doesn't have trophies/achievements and it's an obvious downgrade when compared to the PS4/Xbone versions. Why would a reasonable gamer pay the same price for an inferior version of a game? What Nintendo has to do is allow 3rd parties to make ports that are on par with the competition - drop the PowerPC architecture and give current-gen hardware. 3rd parties are designing their games with PS4/Xbone scope in mind and Nintendo has to deliver here or they can get lost - 3rd parties won't care about them, neither will gamers sans a handful fanboys. It's a business, you either deliver or get left behind. Happened to Sony with Vita and happens to Nintendo with Wii U.

Fixed for you. The rest is too much to fix.



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thegamerpad said:
Dusk said:
Burek said:
This is an announcement that needed to be made, to lower the impact of people announcing Nintendo leaving hardware business.
Probably announced next year for 2017 launch.


LOL! That's funny. Rather ridiculous. With games and consoles being their main pillar of the business, and it's still entirely profitable for them, it would make no sense for them to leave the hardware business. It's just absurd. 

This is likely either dealing with their QOL platform, or a separte smart phone venture. Possibly both since they might go hand in hand. It's not like Nintendo is a sinking ship or anything like that, they are still profiting quite well from their softwear and hardware, but it would be unwise of them to no look into different expanding markets in order to stay relevant. 

Every venture is risky. They would be mental to try a new direction for a new division of their company without supporting their foundation (games and consoles). That would be a move that could destroy Nintendo as a business in one fell swoop, even with the massive amounts of money they have in the bank. 

What you are suggesting, would be like Star Bucks dropping coffee to bring in more pastries and start selling insurance (or something else very different from coffee). 

I think he's saying that Nintendo needed to announce this so "people" (media, internet, etc) didn't assume and start rumors that Nintendo was leaving the hardware business.

Too late though: this radio station came over: Nintendo accepts defeat, goes on to make mobile games. Annoyed the living hell out of me and if i knew where the guy was I would gone by him smacked him silly and tell him to fuly explain the story and stop trying to screw over my company of choice. The media is doing a lot of damage right now.



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uran10 said:
thegamerpad said:
Dusk said:
Burek said:
This is an announcement that needed to be made, to lower the impact of people announcing Nintendo leaving hardware business.
Probably announced next year for 2017 launch.


LOL! That's funny. Rather ridiculous. With games and consoles being their main pillar of the business, and it's still entirely profitable for them, it would make no sense for them to leave the hardware business. It's just absurd. 

This is likely either dealing with their QOL platform, or a separte smart phone venture. Possibly both since they might go hand in hand. It's not like Nintendo is a sinking ship or anything like that, they are still profiting quite well from their softwear and hardware, but it would be unwise of them to no look into different expanding markets in order to stay relevant. 

Every venture is risky. They would be mental to try a new direction for a new division of their company without supporting their foundation (games and consoles). That would be a move that could destroy Nintendo as a business in one fell swoop, even with the massive amounts of money they have in the bank. 

What you are suggesting, would be like Star Bucks dropping coffee to bring in more pastries and start selling insurance (or something else very different from coffee). 

I think he's saying that Nintendo needed to announce this so "people" (media, internet, etc) didn't assume and start rumors that Nintendo was leaving the hardware business.

Too late though: this radio station came over: Nintendo accepts defeat, goes on to make mobile games. Annoyed the living hell out of me and if i knew where the guy was I would gone by him smacked him silly and tell him to fuly explain the story and stop trying to screw over my company of choice. The media is doing a lot of damage right now.

To quote Totalbiscuit, "Gotta bait, gotta bait, get that outrage click/[viewer]/[listener] culture."  Journalistic ethics my foot. 



Materia-Blade said:
Scisca said:


Dude, don't make it more difficult then it really is. Nintendo doesn't have to teach anyone how to play CoD, AC or GTA. Nintendo gamers already buy and play these games, they just do it on PS or Xbox. Why? Cause these games aren't on nintendo platforms! Compare AC IV - Wii U is easily the worst version and it is all because of Nintendo and its stupid mistakes. The game plays like the PS360 game, yet doesn't have trophies/achievements and it's an obvious downgrade when compared to the PS4/Xbone versions. Why would a reasonable gamer pay the same price for an inferior version of a game? What Nintendo has to do is allow 3rd parties to make ports that are on par with the competition - drop the PowerPC architecture and give current-gen hardware. 3rd parties are designing their games with PS4/Xbone scope in mind and Nintendo has to deliver here or they can get lost - 3rd parties won't care about them, neither will gamers sans a handful fanboys. It's a business, you either deliver or get left behind. Happened to Sony with Vita and happens to Nintendo with Wii U.

Fixed for you. The rest is too much to fix.

No need to be rude when he is 100% correct. I buy my third party games elsewhere because they are better elsewhere.

There is a very limited number of gamers who only own nintendo systems. 



Burek said:
Dusk said:


LOL! That's funny. Rather ridiculous. With games and consoles being their main pillar of the business, and it's still entirely profitable for them, it would make no sense for them to leave the hardware business. It's just absurd. 

This is likely either dealing with their QOL platform, or a separte smart phone venture. Possibly both since they might go hand in hand. It's not like Nintendo is a sinking ship or anything like that, they are still profiting quite well from their softwear and hardware, but it would be unwise of them to no look into different expanding markets in order to stay relevant. 

Every venture is risky. They would be mental to try a new direction for a new division of their company without supporting their foundation (games and consoles). That would be a move that could destroy Nintendo as a business in one fell swoop, even with the massive amounts of money they have in the bank. 

What you are suggesting, would be like Star Bucks dropping coffee to bring in more pastries and start selling insurance (or something else very different from coffee). 

It's not funny, it's just that you haven't been paying attention.

Iwata specifically said that a new "dedicated gaming platform is in the works, and it's codename is NX". Also, during the Q&A he repeated that even though NX has nothing to do with today's mobile-centric presser, they wanted to mention it to squash.the rumours of dropping hardware.

I was just writing what made logical sense, and it is 100% correct.


You said the opposite of what Iwata said. that would make it 100 percent inaccurate. They mentioned it to squash the rumours of dropping hardware. Meaning they aren't dropping their hardware.  

If you are talking about NX being a new device? Yes, they did say that.

 

Edit: I reread your initial post, I think I misinterpreted it. You meant to quell the naysayers as opposed to Nintendo dropping consoles right?



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Blob said:

No need to be rude when he is 100% correct. I buy my third party games elsewhere because they are better elsewhere.

There is a very limited number of gamers who only one nintendo systems. 


e.g. on PC

At least that's where I would go.



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