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Frogger on 12 March 2015
GTAexpert said:

Its clear you really were sleeping while watching your friend play it. The writing was brilliant, the acting one of the best in any game, the narrative was interesting and the atmosphere was incredible. Weapons were great and fun to use, but you wouldn't know that if you just watched someone play it. I wouldn't say you're entirely wrong, but mostly, yes.

Not even close to half the game was QTE. You're clearly exggerating, though I guess its not a surprise coming from a Wii U fan who likes to put PS exclusives down. Thing is, if you hate PS so much, don't bother saying anything about it, cuz whenever you do, your bias is loud and clear.


That's funny, because I just came back from a Bloodborn thread where I posted this:

spemanig said:

Bloodborn on the PS4...

Also, I played and beat The Order before it even came out officially, as I've already proven here. Immature posts like yours that try to spin valid criticism as some baby "console war" bullshit don't even deserve intelligent response.



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GTAexpert on 12 March 2015
curl-6 said:
Kerotan said:

Or maybe the people who bought it actually got what they wanted.  I've seen plenty of low star ratings for shit games. 

For multiplats maybe, but I suspect exclusives benefit greatly from fans defending their brand. (Not just on PS either) How are the ratings for or Killzone Shadowfall and Driveclub? (Games that have mixed reviews)

So, you expect people to rate it the same as reviewers? They can't form their own opinions? I'm sorry if you do then its not the right way to look at it.

I loved Driveclub and hated KZ: SF, even though it has a slightly higher metacritic score. So, I guess I don't defend all Sony games, but had I bought the games digitally I surely would have given the games their appropriate scores.



GTAexpert on 12 March 2015
spemanig said:
GTAexpert said:

Its clear you really were sleeping while watching your friend play it. The writing was brilliant, the acting one of the best in any game, the narrative was interesting and the atmosphere was incredible. Weapons were great and fun to use, but you wouldn't know that if you just watched someone play it. I wouldn't say you're entirely wrong, but mostly, yes.

Not even close to half the game was QTE. You're clearly exggerating, though I guess its not a surprise coming from a Wii U fan who likes to put PS exclusives down. Thing is, if you hate PS so much, don't bother saying anything about it, cuz whenever you do, your bias is loud and clear.


That's funny, because I just came back from a Bloodborn thread where I posted this:

spemanig said:

Bloodborn on the PS4...

Also, I played and beat The Order before it even came out officially, as I've already proven here. Immature posts like yours that try to spin valid criticism as some baby "console war" bullshit don't even deserve intelligent response.

When half your criticisms seem to be made up I have a hard time taking your post to be anything but your usual downplaying of PS exclusives.



curl-6 on 12 March 2015
GTAexpert said:
curl-6 said:
Kerotan said:

Or maybe the people who bought it actually got what they wanted.  I've seen plenty of low star ratings for shit games. 

For multiplats maybe, but I suspect exclusives benefit greatly from fans defending their brand. (Not just on PS either) How are the ratings for or Killzone Shadowfall and Driveclub? (Games that have mixed reviews)

So, you expect people to rate it the same as reviewers? They can't form their own opinions? I'm sorry if you do then its not the right way to look at it.

I loved Driveclub and hated KZ: SF, even though it has a slightly higher metacritic score. So, I guess I don't defen all Sony games, but had I bouht the games digitally I surely would have given the gaes their appropriate scores.

I never said people aren't allowed to disagree with reviewers; I myself often do. I'm just explaining why the scores (reviews and user scores) are what they are.



GTAexpert on 12 March 2015
curl-6 said:
GTAexpert said:
curl-6 said:
Kerotan said:

Or maybe the people who bought it actually got what they wanted.  I've seen plenty of low star ratings for shit games. 

For multiplats maybe, but I suspect exclusives benefit greatly from fans defending their brand. (Not just on PS either) How are the ratings for or Killzone Shadowfall and Driveclub? (Games that have mixed reviews)

So, you expect people to rate it the same as reviewers? They can't form their own opinions? I'm sorry if you do then its not the right way to look at it.

I loved Driveclub and hated KZ: SF, even though it has a slightly higher metacritic score. So, I guess I don't defen all Sony games, but had I bouht the games digitally I surely would have given the gaes their appropriate scores.

I never said people aren't allowed to disagree with reviewers; I myself often do. I'm just explaining why the scores (reviews and user scores) are what they are.

No, you said its because fans defend their brands. User scores are high most likely because people like them, just gave my example. Nobody other than internet fanboys care so much about the brand that they would defend a game that they bought and didn't like. Its their hard-earned money, so if the brand doesn't deserve it, they would voice their opinions.

Also if you're wondering all ratings on PSN are given by people who bought the game from PlayStation Store.



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deskpro2k3 on 12 March 2015
curl-6 said:
deskpro2k3 said:

You think haters need a coordinated effort to downplay an exclusive that is not on their perfered console of choice? lol No way man.

Every game has trolls, especially high profile exclusives. The Order didn't recieve poor reviews because of any clandestine anti-Sony conspiracy, it recieved poor reviews because its design was contrary to the values most reviewers use to assess a video game's quality.

 


65 average out of 82 critics is not as bad as you think. One reviewer gave it a 2/10 for the click baits, doesn't have to be a conspiracy.



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Frogger on 12 March 2015
GTAexpert said:

When half your criticisms seem to be made up I have a hard time taking your post to be anything but your usual downplaying of PS exclusives.


Again, not deserving of intelligent response. I'm sure the entire industry is filled with "PS4 hating Wii U fans, who also happen to criticize Wii U games like Splatoon [of which we (I) have been caught on record refering to it as "insulting" and something else with the phrase "polished shit" thrown around], Devil's Third [whom we (I) lovingly renamed 'Devil's Turd'], and Star Fox U," too.

You caught us, good sir. We're all secretly apart of the Wii Uminati, and our sole goal is to say mean things about PS4 exclusive games in a focused attempt to financially ruin Sony more than they've already ruined themselves. (You know, unless the Wii U has a shit game coming out. Then we'll say mean things about those games too, but that's out of blind tough love. Don't pay attention to that...)

And we shall succeed, Goddammit! WE SHALL!



curl-6 on 12 March 2015
deskpro2k3 said:
curl-6 said:

Every game has trolls, especially high profile exclusives. The Order didn't recieve poor reviews because of any clandestine anti-Sony conspiracy, it recieved poor reviews because its design was contrary to the values most reviewers use to assess a video game's quality.

65 average out of 82 critics is not as bad as you think. One reviewer gave it a 2/10 for the click baits, doesn't have to be a conspiracy.

Maybe they genuinely thought it was worth a 2/10? Or maybe the higher reviews only rated it higher to please fans?

Why are only low scores suspect?



GTAexpert on 12 March 2015
spemanig said:
GTAexpert said:

When half your criticisms seem to be made up I have a hard time taking your post to be anything but your usual downplaying of PS exclusives.


Again, not deserving of intelligent response. I'm sure the entire industry is filled with "PS4 hating Wii U fans, who also happen to criticize Wii U games like Splatoon (of which we have been caught on record refering to it as "insulting" and something else with the phrase "polished shit" thrown around), Devil's Third (whom we lovingly renamed 'Devil's Turd'), and Star Fox U," too.

You caught us, good sir. We're all secretly apart of the Wii Uminati, and our sole goal is to say mean things about PS4 exclusive games in a focused attempt to financially ruin Sony more than they've already ruined themselves. (You know, unless the Wii U has a shit game coming out. Then we'll say mean things about those games too, but that's out of blind tough love. Don't pay attention to that...)

And we shall succeed, Goddammit! WE SHALL!

This sarcastic post of yours actually doesn't seem too far from the reality on VGC.

Its all but obvious you wouldn't accept the truth, and I wouldn't believe your crap. So lets end the discussion here.



Mr.Playstation on 12 March 2015

IMO, the first weeks will obviously be big but the games legs have been broken, nobody will buy the game after 1 week.



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