Goatseye said:
You wouldn't believe the amount of mentally ill people in this country. |
I do believe there are far greater problems in America than guns but they don't help the equation so to speak...
Goatseye said:
You wouldn't believe the amount of mentally ill people in this country. |
I do believe there are far greater problems in America than guns but they don't help the equation so to speak...
Goatseye said:
A *uckton of people wouldn't be qualified and that means a lot of potential gun sales. |
My buddy that got diagnosed with paranoid schizophrnea was trying to get a gun, I'm glad they denied him and sinse he has given up on getting a gun. I'm very glad after watching him go through episodes.. He doens't believe any of us about him hearing voices and talking to people that are not there, he gets in massive rages for no reason at all. I was once djing at a night club, brought him and my lady with. When I was done we left and he was freaking about the bartending fucking with him all night, however the bartender didn't talk to him once because I had free drinks with my pay.
However more over he is not to be trusted with a gun and luckily in my state we bachground check and he got denied.
America must be a pretty bleak First World Dystopia if the People require assault weapons to protect themselves from the Government AND each other.
DJEVOLVE said:
However more over he is not to be trusted with a gun and luckily in my state we bachground check and he got denied. |
Which is actually a reasonable restriction.
There's a typo in the title. It should be: Obama's continued war on gun nuts!
Burek said: There's a typo in the title. It should be: Obama's continued war on gun nuts! |
So half of America are gun nuts?
NobleTeam360 said:
Funny enought high power sniper rifles are legal for civilian use . Not with cluster bombs though . Although it wouldn't be logically to use a sniper rifle for home defense. |
Is it a sign of having watched way too much Mythbusters if I knew that?
That's actually part of what I find so ridiculous. American citizens can buy a fucking sniper. Why the fuck would you need that? Recreation? I would not feel safe if everyone in Norway could just go and buy a sniper "just to have fun".
But explain to me, is the reason for being allowed to own guns that you can defend yourself against a tyrranical government? Cause as you explained, you doubt the military would turn against their own people, and if the military doesn't attack you, who would? And if the military does attack you (american citizens), then you wouldn't have too much of a chance anyway, so either way this point is moot. Either the military doesn't turn against you, and you have nothing to defend yourself from, or the military does turn against you, and you're fucked anyway
Only in the US do they argue for a right to openly buy guns, and assault rifles at that. Every other developed country looks, laughs and shakes their heads at the notion of buying firearms. If you need to own a gun in a developed country, it then very arguably isn't a developed country.
Teeqoz said:
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AR's are pretty low powered rifles actually
sundin13 said:
a. As I've stated, the primary benefits are longer range and increased capacity, neither or which are particularly necessary in home defense situations. Homes typically have a more compact layout, meaning that the range of pistols is more than adequate and if you can't hit an intruder with the amount of bullets a handgun has, I don't think you should be trusted with an AR-15. b. Well yes...its quite obvious that the goverment should have more rights than civilians. Governments have tanks, nukes, ability to enforce laws, ability to enforce policy changes etc.. That is not "how dictatorships start", its how the world works. If there exists a government that doesn't have any increased power or rights, they wouldn't be a government. |
A. you basically just narrowed defense down to one specific scenario with no regard for defense outside of those circumstances
B. no there should never be a circumstance where those in government have rights that the citizens don't have
yes they determine in accordance with the constitution what laws are to be passed but they still have to restrain themselves to the boudaries of the same laws that they create and to the boundaries of the constitution
if they do not as has been happening in recent times then a dictatorship is starting to form
your point about tanks and nukes is a strange one suppose i built a tank or a nuke?
oh and i'd like to add that there is no real reason for either tanks or nukes the major wars of the past century were all manipulations to produce people who feel comfortable saying that because the government has tanks and nukes that they are entitled to more rights than their citizens