By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - General Discussion - Please Convince Me The Earth Is Moving And Not At The Center Of The Universe

Here I was expecting a different poster, but I was graced with the same quality content anyway. Very entertaining to see people use "science" to disprove science.

We can't even say there is a heliocentric model anymore since observations put that sun rotates around a black hole in the center of our galaxy.

About why scientists deny geocentric model even when their observations don't deny it. Because all experiments done are Earth biased so to accept it is to ignore that the referential affects the outcome. All mass around earth moves as one using Earth as referential, your points are just trying to ignore it Mixing fields of mechanical in an inapropriate way. Earth athmosphere behaves close to air around foil inside the limit layer.

On an end note I believe in the doncentric model, I'm stationary and the universe (and all people) moves around me coordinated by my will. There is no experiment that can disprove it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Around the Network

And if you wanted a scientific answer you would go to a cosmology class and ask instead of a vg forum.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

The centre of the universe is everywhere and nowhere at the same time, so you're both right and wrong at the same time.



In short the centre of the universe there isn't one so you can consider the centre of the universe to be wherever you happen to be. So you are the centre of your universe. I am the centre of mine and we all see the universe differently due to our own minds and our own duality like the double slit experiment proves that observations effect reality so when you are looking out at your universe you created with your mind due to your own personal beliefs and observations you made what the universe has become.

We are all in our personal universe within the multiverse made by your decisions in life and observations. Remeber we are all energy and that energy existed at the beginning of time, if time even exists which it may not see time may not exist and zeno paradoxes, we may not even be able to move either and space may well not exist just perhaps in our own observations and therefore an imprint on our brains from our eyes that's if they even exist when the reality is we are energy, energy that cannot be created nor destroyed so eternal beings from the beginning of time which time may not exist as such more of an personal experience of consciousness 'moving' though an unchangable hologram fractal universe which is viewed through our consiousness and appears to us as a 3d universe. Of course it hasnt changed it is still the unchangable fractal pattern it always was but we as we journey are 'seeing' differeng parts of this fractal hologram universe and the fractal has always been the same, zeno said movement was impossible and I entirely believe that we are not moving all is a static picture in our conscious mind and appears as movement. see zeno's paradoxes makes interesting reads and not entirely solvable by maths as was thought because in the advent of quantum mechanics, zeno was on to something with his paradoxes which science needs to get to the bottom of. Quantum physics is a strange world and all answers are our truth as we see it, all personal experience so no wrong or right answers. 

Science can be used against science, as we are learning there is no unified theory yet, global warming/man made climate has it science for and against but I tending to side with the against as it is a natural event in my  opinion.



Nobody can convince you with 100% of certainty that because...the Earth is indeed the center of the Universe, from Earth point of view.

/taking red pill

The outer part of the known Universe (Big bang system) is rotating around the unmoving Earth way faster than the speed of light.

/taking the whole bottle of red pills

The whole Universe (which has an infinite mass and infinite size) is rotating around the Earth, the infinitely far away located parts of the whole Universe going at an infinite speed relatively to Earth.



Around the Network


The whole Universe (which has an infinite mass and infinite size) is rotating around the Earth, the infinitely far away located parts of the whole Universe going at an infinite speed relatively to Earth.


How can you be sure? What if there are other universes outside of our own and they exhibit a pull on ours gravitationally speaking could be the source of dark energy/matter. The earth isn't infinite, the solar system isn't, galaxies aren't. The universe could be a colossal size but not infinite and still expanding up to a point and then may contract back and rebigbang again. Science say they have found 5 of these echos of big bangs happening the the past. Link be somewhere on Google if you search for echos of previous big bangs. Besides many scientists consider infinite speed not possible. C = speed of light fastest possible speed.



Hmm... lets see. Have you noticed how we have days and its day during half of it and dark during the other?

Theres only 2 choices. The sun goes around the earth on a daily basis, or the earth rotates. The Sun is thousands of times bigger than the earth. It would break all rules of gravity, under wich you keep your feet in the ground. The earth obviously moves around it. 

How is this a question? Its a proven fact and its incredibly easy to verify yourself. Some of the claims you make make it sound like you havent studied physics.

 

Is this supposed to be a bait guys? I'm having trouble believing anyone could question this.



Teddy said:




How can you be sure? What if there are other universes outside of our own and they exhibit a pull on ours gravitationally speaking could be the source of dark energy/matter. The earth isn't infinite, the solar system isn't, galaxies aren't. The universe could be a colossal size but not infinite and still expanding up to a point and then may contract back and rebigbang again. Science say they have found 5 of these echos of big bangs happening the the past. Link be somewhere on Google if you search for echos of previous big bangs. Besides many scientists consider infinite speed not possible. C = speed of light fastest possible speed.

The whole (infinite) Universe I am talking about already contains all others Universes by definition (those that are outside our known Big bang Universe) .





It is not because I'm the center of universe... everything moves around me.



Nem said:

Hmm... let see. Have you noticed how we have days and its day during half of it and dark during the other?

Theres only 2 choices. The sun goes around the earth on a daily basis, or the earth rotates. The Sun is thousands of times bigger than the earth. It would break all rules of gravity, under wich you keep your feet in the ground. The earth obviously moves around it. 

How is this a question? Its a proven fact and its incredibly easy to verify yourself. 


What about the moon, do you believe that goes around earth or the sun or around earth and sun?

 

Well turns out the moon doesn't go around the Earth but rather the moon and earth do a dance together like a waltz with the earth being like the heavier man and the moon being the lighter woman, in this case they revolve around a centre which just happens to be close to the earth because the earth is so massive compared but the moon is not revolving around the centre of the earth, I think it is a centre which happens to be somewhere under the crust of the earth which maybe why the moon can make earthquakes happen on earth although some scientists will not believe that but at the same time make a case for moonquakes happening due to earth's gravitational force which is somewhat hypocritical of them.

So as the earth 'goes around the sun'(or not) in this case it is not the earth going around the sun it is the epicentre of moon the gravational forces of earth plus moon which rotates and therefore earth is doing a little dance with the moon around the sun bobing backward and forward through the epicentre as it does. Therefore applying this theory to sun then the earth is doing a little dance with its giant massive sun partner as they revolve around the milkyway and thus making minute fluctuations in the sun's orbit around Milky way, this becomes more complex when you realise the other planets are getting in on your massive dancing partner(she is a big girl after all) and they are dancing with her and the Waltz dance with the sun is ever so complex as it now includes all planets pulling on it massive partner with planets such as Jupiter and Saturn influencing  the sun more so than our earth. Those planets could well be influencing sun's a activity as well as its orbit. Gets more complex when you realise the masses of other suns(stars) pulling on our sun and so on. The system is a complex one then as you'll realise when the butterfly flaps his wings the same for the planets and indeed far far far away stars and planets are influencing us with their far reaching gravity, gravity has an infinite reach.