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I read that some are saying its the biggest gpu die nvidia has ever made.
So their saying its gonna be like ~610mm^2 and cost 1500$+.

Price goes up exponentially with the die size increase. The bigger die the more costly to make, and thus the sales price.
To me thats quite a investment. Ive always kinda wondered who buys these insane GPUs that cost north of 1,000$.



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JRPGfan said:

I read that some are saying its the biggest gpu die nvidia has ever made.
So their saying its gonna be like ~610mm^2 and cost 1500$+.

Price goes up exponentially with the die size increase. The bigger die the more costly to make, and thus the sales price.
To me thats quite a investment. Ive always kinda wondered who buys these insane GPUs that cost north of 1,000$.


I've always thought just pay $500 was to much. $300 is as high as I'm willing to go.



JRPGfan said:

I read that some are saying its the biggest gpu die nvidia has ever made.
So their saying its gonna be like ~610mm^2 and cost 1500$+.


Price goes up exponentially with the die size increase. The bigger die the more costly to make, and thus the sales price.
To me thats quite a investment. Ive always kinda wondered who buys these insane GPUs that cost north of 1,000$.

Both things are possible.

The first Titan had 7.1 billion transistors and was a 551mm^2 chip so the Titan X (which is made on the same 28nm process), with 8 billion transistors will be bigger than that.

And in regards to price, premium products always cost more, and Nvidia has charged a hefty premium for years with no problems. Let's remember that the first Titan was a $999 card and buyers could only buy one (at each store) at launch to avoid big shortages. And those 12GB of RAM give them the excuse to go the extra mile and charge $500 more, although I doubt they'll go as far.

I guess that they'll go with $999 - $1,299 and leave enough room for a $799 GTX 980Ti with 6GB of RAM to compete with AMD's 390X.



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Will probably more expensive than and be outperformed by the R9 395X2



All I know is i ll laugh hard if the 390x comes out like a month after, at 550$ and out performans a 1500$ one.

Nvidia has a history of doing this.
They dont "over charge" because obviously there are people buying it at those prices.
Nvidia are just laughing all the way to the bank.

A few months lateron and a 1500$ purchase has lost 2/3rd's of its value in terms of $.


I think people under estimate what effect, new ram technologies will have.
Then theres the issue of current gen nvidia cards not really being fully DX12 (right?), compaired to AMDs.

On the other hand, nvidia's are abit better in terms of perf/watt, so its a greener card to have.



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JRPGfan said:
All I know is i ll laugh hard if the 390x comes out like a month after, at 550$ and out performans a 1500$ one.

Nvidia has a history of doing this.
They dont "over charge" because obviously there are people buying it at those prices.
Nvidia are just laughing all the way to the bank.

A few months lateron and a 1500$ purchase has lost 2/3rd's of its value in terms of $.


I think people under estimate what effect, new ram technologies will have.
Then theres the issue of current gen nvidia cards not really being fully DX12 (right?), compaired to AMDs.

On the other hand, nvidia's are abit better in terms of perf/watt, so its a greener card to have.

People will still buy TitanXs just like they still bought Titan Blacks after the 290X launched. Only the 780Ti made those cards unattractive to them.

And while AMD will have a selling point with the new HBM, all signs point to a 390X with "only" 4GB of memory. Sure, it will be faster and all, but it will still have "only"4GB so games like Shadow of Mordor won't let you play with the Ultra textures as it asks 6GB of RAM, no matter what kind of it.

Oh, and while Nvidia is better on perf/watt and that won't change with the newer cards, the truth is that the TitanX will still be a >250W card (the GTX 980 is a 165W card but comes with 4GB of RAM and 5.2B transistors) and that AMD's Tonga, which is GCN1.2, was a step in the right direction that can be further improved with the 390X on GCN1.3.



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This card had better deliver serious performance compared to their flagship, because if it doesn't, it'll end up just like the previous Titan did vs the 780ti with a lot of customers angry. People aren't going to fall for that trick forever.



ofrm1 said:
This card had better deliver serious performance compared to their flagship, because if it doesn't, it'll end up just like the previous Titan did vs the 780ti with a lot of customers angry. People aren't going to fall for that trick forever.

Of course they will.

After all, the Titan isn't explicitly sold to gamers but those who want a Quadro card and can't afford it. That's why it has more RAM and better performance in some tasks more related to the professional environment. So, they'll be able to launch a 980Ti with half the RAM and a higher speed for half or a third or the money with no real complains.

Look at what happened with the 3.5-4GB thing of the 970. A lot of the owners who were pissed off by the whole thing sold their cards, or asked for a refund... only to buy 980 instead.



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It's just me or this GPU isn't outperforming the Titan Z or 295x2? The specs are way worser. It looks more like a "entry" level Titan.



torok said:
It's just me or this GPU isn't outperforming the Titan Z or 295x2? The specs are way worser. It looks more like a "entry" level Titan.

I don't think it will dethrone the 295X2, at least not in all the games, but I wouldn't be su sure about the Titan Z.

After all, with Maxwell we see the 980 with 5.2 Billion transistors outperforms (marginally, but still) the 7.1 Billion Kepler based 780Ti, which was faster than the Titan. Now, the Titan X will have about 50% more transistors with 8 Billion and, unlike the Titan Z, it won't have SLI scaling problems nor reduced speeds to keep the temperature and power consumption manageable.

And you'll be able to get two X for the price of one Z.



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