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Snesboy said:
160rmf said:
Yes. cars, jet skis and computers are toys too, because their main function is to play games

My computer is used to run my life. Not just to play games.


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Yes, they are toys.

aLkaLiNE said:
Yes. 
Just like cars are toys.

No, they are tools / modes of transport.



Tachikoma said:

Yes, they are toys.

aLkaLiNE said:
Yes. 
Just like cars are toys.

No, they are tools / modes of transport.

People don't buy a Porsche for its superior transport capabilities.



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KungKras said:
Tachikoma said:

Yes, they are toys.

aLkaLiNE said:
Yes. 
Just like cars are toys.

No, they are tools / modes of transport.

People don't buy a Porsche for its superior transport capabilities.

Better speed, handling, acceleration, so actually yes, they do.



Yes, it is, essentially, a toy. Of course over the years consoles got more functions, but they were created as something to play with, and that continue to be its main pourpose



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Is a DVD player a toy? Is a deck of cards a toy? Is a book a toy?



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Well if they can't play blurray, or DVD and multi media etc then yes. It's quite simple really.



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People keep giving these expanded definitions of "toy" in order to support their argument, but there's one thing everyone is forgetting to consider: context.

In the 90s, when consoles were called "toys", what were they described as? A child's play thing. Something made to be played with by kids. And that is the typical definition of "toy" when you look up the term (not the 3.b.1b definition).

This is why "designed to be played with" doesn't hold. This is why "provides entertainment" does not hold. A guitar is made to be played with, but it is not a toy. It is an instrument. A book provides entertainment, but it is not a toy. It is a book. A GI Joe is meant to be played with by kids. It is a toy, by primary definition and in conventional/practical usage. If these were all the same, we wouldn't have such vastly different ways to describe them. Think about it. When you tell kids to go to your room and play with your toys, they don't whip out Monopoly boards, DVDs, iPhones, and a copy of To Kill a Mockingbird.

So, while you guys can go ahead and give some wide ranging definition of "toy" (which then, by extension, makes everything in this world a toy), in the context of the 90s belief of "video games are toys", no, video games are not anymore. Because they aren't made to be played with specifically for kids. If you want to say they are just because you can play with them, then the next time some toddler is smashing your phone against the table, don't snatch it from them and say "this is not a toy". When a kid gets in your gun safe, don't tell them to get away and say "these are not toys".

If a toy doesn't have an objective definition (something for kids to play with) and only has a subjective one ("well...it's a toy if you derive enjoyment from it"), then you have no right to take anything away from them. It's a toy to be played with. If you take it away and say "this shouldn't be played with" then you're being contradictory to yourself because if the kid is being entertained by the above mentioned items, then they are therefore toys by your definition. Can't say "this shouldn't be played with" all the while saying toys are "things to be played with for entertainment" and then turn around and say a phone, for example, is still a toy.....even though toys are meant to be played with (but you just said the phone shouldn't be played with).



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BMaker11 said:

People keep giving these expanded definitions of "toy" in order to support their argument, but there's one thing everyone is forgetting to consider: context.

In the 90s, when consoles were called "toys", what were they described as? A child's play thing. Something made to be played with by kids. And that is the typical definition of "toy" when you look up the term (not the 3.b.1b definition).

This is why "designed to be played with" doesn't hold. This is why "provides entertainment" does not hold. A guitar is made to be played with, but it is not a toy. It is an instrument. A book provides entertainment, but it is not a toy. It is a book. A GI Joe is meant to be played with by kids. It is a toy, by primary definition and in conventional/practical usage. If these were all the same, we wouldn't have such vastly different ways to describe them. Think about it. When you tell kids to go to your room and play with your toys, they don't whip out Monopoly boards, DVDs, iPhones, and a copy of To Kill a Mockingbird.

So, while you guys can go ahead and give some wide ranging definition of "toy" (which then, by extension, makes everything in this world a toy), in the context of the 90s belief of "video games are toys", no, video games are not anymore. Because they aren't made to be played with specifically for kids. If you want to say they are just because you can play with them, then the next time some toddler is smashing your phone against the table, don't snatch it from them and say "this is not a toy". When a kid gets in your gun safe, don't tell them to get away and say "these are not toys".


Exactly. Spot on. 

Just because some is meant to be played on doesn't make it a "toy" either. A pool table is not a toy. 

No woman is going to look at you like you're some kind of deranged loser if you have a pool table in your basement. If you have a giant Lego play set and it's clearly for you (not for kids) ... different story. 

Video game consoles graduated beyond being "kids toys" in the sense they were in the 1980s/90s a long time ago.