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Forums - Sony Discussion - Exclusive: Critics Admit To Lowering Scores For Attention.

 

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Yes 173 74.57%
 
No 59 25.43%
 
Total:232
Nate4Drake on 02 March 2015
rolltide101x said:
Nate4Drake said:

And unfortunately, that minority typically involves small to mid-range sites that need the traffic. It also usually centers on those who are, let’s say, less than professional (i.e., just a gamer pretending to be a journalist with no real credentials). Given the way the Internet works, and the fact that anyone can post a review of anything, nobody should be too surprised.  Now, moving on.

 

There is no "credentials" to review a game. Anybody can (and should be able to) review anything they want. I just really do not like how you worded that there like some person's opinion is any better than anyone elses.

This 'Quote' is from the Article I posted, not my words :)     My point is different, and I would like to make a Petition to apply a 'Score Method' to everybody for the reasons explained above.  Everybody is so welcome to suggest his own 'Score Method'.



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rolltide101x on 02 March 2015
Nate4Drake said:
rolltide101x said:
Nate4Drake said:

And unfortunately, that minority typically involves small to mid-range sites that need the traffic. It also usually centers on those who are, let’s say, less than professional (i.e., just a gamer pretending to be a journalist with no real credentials). Given the way the Internet works, and the fact that anyone can post a review of anything, nobody should be too surprised.  Now, moving on.

 

There is no "credentials" to review a game. Anybody can (and should be able to) review anything they want. I just really do not like how you worded that there like some person's opinion is any better than anyone elses.

This 'Quote' is from the Article I posted, not my words :)     My point is different, and I would like to make a Petition to apply a 'Score Method' to everybody for the reasons explained above.  Everybody is so welcome to suggest his own 'Score Method'.

Ah, my mistake then. I jumped the gun and I apologize.

 

Well..... I do not like the way they worded that lol



Nate4Drake on 02 March 2015
rolltide101x said:
Nate4Drake said:

This 'Quote' is from the Article I posted, not my words :)     My point is different, and I would like to make a Petition to apply a 'Score Method' to everybody for the reasons explained above.  Everybody is so welcome to suggest his own 'Score Method'.

Ah, my mistake then. I jumped the gun and I apologize.

 

Well..... I do not like the way they worded that lol

No problem, welcome :)



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Aeolus451 on 02 March 2015
eva01beserk said:
Aeolus451 said:
eva01beserk said:
Aeolus451 said:


10% is way too low. 25%, I think is better. Games should be compared to each other within their generation.  If a game looks like last gen graphically, it should be notably penalized for that in it's review and the scoring. There's too much click bait and fans/bloggers writing reviews. Hence why i don't take the majority of reviews seriously.

like I said in a previous commet, we need to break down what each part of a game is worth to know what is truly important and assigne a percentage to that quality of the game and make reviewers follow it to avoid all this debate with a national standard.

Like 

story   30%

gameplay 30%

bugs  20%

artstyle  20%

and what ever else is important. But it has to be agreed upon by a large number of people so its fair. That way we avoid some douche reviewer giving a game a 20 cuz is to short or has no multyplaer or singleplayer or the graphics sucked or just dint like the story. It would force them to be slitghtly more honest.

There's plenty of games that would score high with art style but low with actual graphics. If we're going for honesty and all.

Story 20%
Gameplay 20%
Bugs 20%
Art style 20%
Graphics 20%

 

I guess, but now your saying that just for looks the game deserves 40% of its score and thats to much.

We should probably add sound to te mix and give it like 5%. and content should be like 15%. so I would say artstyle 12.5% and graphics 12.5% if you want to seprate them.


Well, it is a video game where the majority of it is experienced through seeing it on a tv screen.  Sound/music does deserve it's on part. I agree with that.



Aeolus451 on 02 March 2015
Nate4Drake said:
eva01beserk said:

I guess, but now your saying that just for looks the game deserves 40% of its score and thats to much.

We should probably add sound to te mix and give it like 5%. and content should be like 15%. so I would say artstyle 12.5% and graphics 12.5% if you want to seprate them.

I would make it very simple.  Just an average among :

1) Graphics/Art Design

2) Sound/Music

3) Game-play and Controls.

4) Story/Story telling

5) Longevity/Value/Bugs/features/MP.

Just go with a Score which is the average, then the Reviewer will give the full review, and you will make an idea reading all the review, and not just looking at the Score.  Doing like this, you will 'cut' garbage like some reviews from Quarter to Three, who gave Halo4 a 20/100.  No way you can rate Halo4(example) 20/100 if you apply the 'old style Rating'; I mean, you should never rate Halo4 less than 7/10, but in this way you can't cheat, and you would look like a joke if you try to make an everage of 20/100 with Halo4 or The Order 1886. ( I'm not comparing these two games).


Well, a lot of 'em kinda do that but it's different for each reviewer. I wish there was a universal rating system and that reviewers were regulated. I personally don't use reviews to figure out If want to buy a game or not. They are fast becoming irrevelevent in the today's gaming world. Giving such low scores like you mentioned to perfectly working games is sad and it discredits game reviews as a whole.



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Mnementh on 02 March 2015
Lawlight said:
curl-6 said:
Thing is, they raise scores to curry the favor of fans as well.


I think that's done mostly for Nintendo games. How these games are not docked points for being more of the same is a blatant red flag.

Oh yes clear, scores are undeserved increased only for Nintendo-games, Sony games always only get undeserved hate. Clearly that is a completely unbiased view on things.



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Nate4Drake on 02 March 2015
Aeolus451 said:
Nate4Drake said:

I would make it very simple.  Just an average among :

1) Graphics/Art Design

2) Sound/Music

3) Game-play and Controls.

4) Story/Story telling

5) Longevity/Value/Bugs/features/MP.

Just go with a Score which is the average, then the Reviewer will give the full review, and you will make an idea reading all the review, and not just looking at the Score.  Doing like this, you will 'cut' garbage like some reviews from Quarter to Three, who gave Halo4 a 20/100.  No way you can rate Halo4(example) 20/100 if you apply the 'old style Rating'; I mean, you should never rate Halo4 less than 7/10, but in this way you can't cheat, and you would look like a joke if you try to make an everage of 20/100 with Halo4 or The Order 1886. ( I'm not comparing these two games).


Well, a lot of 'em kinda do that but it's different for each reviewer. I wish there was a universal rating system and that reviewers were regulated. I personally don't use reviews to figure out If want to buy a game or not. They are fast becoming irrevelevent in the today's gaming world. Giving such low scores like you mentioned to perfectly working games is sad and it discredits game reviews as a whole.

Yep, I agree.

I'm the first one who does not consider the final score of Meta; I bought KZ :SF, LBP3, The Evil Within, and I enjoyed all, though Meta was a bit low.

Do you think it's possible to go with a Petition suggesting a 'Universal Rating System' for Metacritic ?



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DrDoomz on 02 March 2015

Don't know how metacritic works exactly but one idea is to allow (unless they're already doing this) people (with accounts and they should pass some sort of qualifying criteria to be allowed to up/downvote) should be allowed to critique critics (via critic reviews plus down/upvoting for reliability) and if a critic gets too many negative overall scores, then they should be removed from the critic pool they use to determine critic score. Should help to keep the sites honest.



DrDoomz on 02 March 2015
BraLoD said:
sam987 said:
And what about paid reviews? The Last of US was far from perfect but the scores smells very fishy.


95 was too damn low, anything less than a perfect score as 100 smells fishy indeed.

Yeah from a guy who hated the setting, hates zombie games and hates linear games, TLoU was a fckin masterpiece. Loved it.

edit. Meant tlou not tlos lol.



eva01beserk on 02 March 2015

Nate4drake I'm at work right now so can't get into it right now, why don't you start a thread so all Vic can get into it and we come to an agreement we can submit it together. Maybe have one of the wrighters like sceece put it together and all back it up and post it on other sites like neogaf to get the word rolling.



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