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Kerotan said:
Rafux said:


how was the shooting unique? tha only original thing I remember was the thermite gun everything else was generic


The guns,  the way the bullets moved through the air,  the in cover shooting,  the cross hair.  I'm an fps veteran and i never thought I'd play such a fresh shooting game ever again.  


-The guns are the same we have seen before except for the themite which I mentioned (electric gun was just a rail gun), Resistance had a lot of unique weapons, Ratchet and Clank which is a platform with a little of third person shooter is another excellent example (I haven't played Sunset Overdrive yet)

-COVER SHOOTING!? it was the same as in every other game, a real example of originality would be Uncharted cause it introduced verticality, you can climb and jump to flank or get a better shot.

-The cross hair were not diferent in any way, shape or form from any other game. Take for example Dead Space where the cross hairs are unique and important to the game (shooting at limbs)

-The way the bullets moved through the air, what? how was it unique or in what way did it affect gameplay?

You are joking I guess and I fell for it.



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Rafux said:
Kerotan said:
Rafux said:


how was the shooting unique? tha only original thing I remember was the thermite gun everything else was generic


The guns,  the way the bullets moved through the air,  the in cover shooting,  the cross hair.  I'm an fps veteran and i never thought I'd play such a fresh shooting game ever again.  


-The guns are the same we have seen before except for the themite which I mentioned (electric gun was just a rail gun), Resistance had a lot of unique weapons, Ratchet and Clank which is a platform with a little of third person shooter is another excellent example (I haven't played Sunset Overdrive yet)

-COVER SHOOTING!? it was the same as in every other game, a real example of originality would be Uncharted cause it introduced verticality, you can climb and jump to flank or get a better shot.

-The cross hair were not diferent in any way, shape or form from any other game. Take for example Dead Space where the cross hairs are unique and important to the game (shooting at limbs)

-The way the bullets moved through the air, what? how was it unique or in what way did it affect gameplay?

You are joking I guess and I fell for it.


I've played all mainstream shooters and many 3rd person shooters.  The order was unique as hell in the shooting regard.  have you even played it?



Rafux said:
Kerotan said:
Rafux said:


how was the shooting unique? tha only original thing I remember was the thermite gun everything else was generic


The guns,  the way the bullets moved through the air,  the in cover shooting,  the cross hair.  I'm an fps veteran and i never thought I'd play such a fresh shooting game ever again.  


-The guns are the same we have seen before except for the themite which I mentioned (electric gun was just a rail gun), Resistance had a lot of unique weapons, Ratchet and Clank which is a platform with a little of third person shooter is another excellent example (I haven't played Sunset Overdrive yet)

-COVER SHOOTING!? it was the same as in every other game, a real example of originality would be Uncharted cause it introduced verticality, you can climb and jump to flank or get a better shot.

-The cross hair were not diferent in any way, shape or form from any other game. Take for example Dead Space where the cross hairs are unique and important to the game (shooting at limbs)

-The way the bullets moved through the air, what? how was it unique or in what way did it affect gameplay?

You are joking I guess and I fell for it.

I can understand people not liking the game. Played it for a bit on my nephew's console and decided to wait til it drops to 20USD before buying it (give it 7/10 myself). But damn you sure hate it. Venom is practically dripping in your posts. A little bit more and you'd be able to crush Order 1886 discs with your mind. What gives?



DrDoomz said:
Rafux said:
Kerotan said:
Rafux said:


how was the shooting unique? tha only original thing I remember was the thermite gun everything else was generic


The guns,  the way the bullets moved through the air,  the in cover shooting,  the cross hair.  I'm an fps veteran and i never thought I'd play such a fresh shooting game ever again.  


-The guns are the same we have seen before except for the themite which I mentioned (electric gun was just a rail gun), Resistance had a lot of unique weapons, Ratchet and Clank which is a platform with a little of third person shooter is another excellent example (I haven't played Sunset Overdrive yet)

-COVER SHOOTING!? it was the same as in every other game, a real example of originality would be Uncharted cause it introduced verticality, you can climb and jump to flank or get a better shot.

-The cross hair were not diferent in any way, shape or form from any other game. Take for example Dead Space where the cross hairs are unique and important to the game (shooting at limbs)

-The way the bullets moved through the air, what? how was it unique or in what way did it affect gameplay?

You are joking I guess and I fell for it.

I can understand people not liking the game. Played it for a bit on my nephew's console and decided to wait til it drops to 20USD before buying it (give it 7/10 myself). But damn you sure hate it. Venom is practically dripping in your posts. A little bit more and you'd be able to crush Order 1886 discs with your mind. What gives?


Valid criticism is venom now.



Rafux said:
DrDoomz said:

I can understand people not liking the game. Played it for a bit on my nephew's console and decided to wait til it drops to 20USD before buying it (give it 7/10 myself). But damn you sure hate it. Venom is practically dripping in your posts. A little bit more and you'd be able to crush Order 1886 discs with your mind. What gives?


Valid criticism is venom now.

No it isn't but your criticism is invalid.



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Kerotan said:
Rafux said:
Kerotan said:
Rafux said:


how was the shooting unique? tha only original thing I remember was the thermite gun everything else was generic


The guns,  the way the bullets moved through the air,  the in cover shooting,  the cross hair.  I'm an fps veteran and i never thought I'd play such a fresh shooting game ever again.  


-The guns are the same we have seen before except for the themite which I mentioned (electric gun was just a rail gun), Resistance had a lot of unique weapons, Ratchet and Clank which is a platform with a little of third person shooter is another excellent example (I haven't played Sunset Overdrive yet)

-COVER SHOOTING!? it was the same as in every other game, a real example of originality would be Uncharted cause it introduced verticality, you can climb and jump to flank or get a better shot.

-The cross hair were not diferent in any way, shape or form from any other game. Take for example Dead Space where the cross hairs are unique and important to the game (shooting at limbs)

-The way the bullets moved through the air, what? how was it unique or in what way did it affect gameplay?

You are joking I guess and I fell for it.


I've played all mainstream shooters and many 3rd person shooters.  The order was unique as hell in the shooting regard.  have you even played it?


"I've played all mainstream shooters and many 3rd person shooters."

So what? I have played them too. Yes I have played The Order I finish it in 6 hours (a friend lend me his psn account in case you are wondering)

"The order was unique as hell in the shooting regard"

But you fail to give any real example of why, I already gave plenty of examples of unique gameplay. "The order was unique as hell in the shooting regard BECAUSE I SAID SO!" thats how you sound



Rafux said:
DrDoomz said:

I can understand people not liking the game. Played it for a bit on my nephew's console and decided to wait til it drops to 20USD before buying it (give it 7/10 myself). But damn you sure hate it. Venom is practically dripping in your posts. A little bit more and you'd be able to crush Order 1886 discs with your mind. What gives?


Valid criticism is venom now.

Valid criticism is valid. But there's a difference between criticism and outright hate. Reading your posts make it seem like the latter and not the former. Not really hating on you, man, you've got a right to your opinion (and I agree with some of them as I am quite dissappointed with the game myself. Still getting it tho but at a lower price). But it reads more like hate (and not just a normal hate, we're talking Palpatine level hate here) than valid criticism to me. But pay me no mind. Just an observation.



GTAexpert said:
Rafux said:


Valid criticism is venom now.

No it isn't but your criticism is invalid.


Why? Because you said so? Come on guys! I love Destiny but I can understand all criticism it gets, Destiny is not perfect is very flawed I still enjoy it a lot but you seem blind to The Order flaws and think everyone is wrong.



Rafux said:
Kerotan said:


I've played all mainstream shooters and many 3rd person shooters.  The order was unique as hell in the shooting regard.  have you even played it?


"I've played all mainstream shooters and many 3rd person shooters."

So what? I have played them too. Yes I have played The Order I finish it in 6 hours (a friend lend me his psn account in case you are wondering)

"The order was unique as hell in the shooting regard"

But you fail to give any real example of why, I already gave plenty of examples of unique gameplay. "The order was unique as hell in the shooting regard BECAUSE I SAID SO!" thats how you sound


Lmao your reasons were you couldn't climb things to shoot vertical vertically.  were not arguing over the best platform platformer here!  

 

And then you brought up Ratchet and Clank. Yeah as if the guns from that are gonna be expected to make it into this.  The order guns are incredibly visceral and have an excellent sense of realism.  The best I've played yet. 



Kerotan said:
Rafux said:


"I've played all mainstream shooters and many 3rd person shooters."

So what? I have played them too. Yes I have played The Order I finish it in 6 hours (a friend lend me his psn account in case you are wondering)

"The order was unique as hell in the shooting regard"

But you fail to give any real example of why, I already gave plenty of examples of unique gameplay. "The order was unique as hell in the shooting regard BECAUSE I SAID SO!" thats how you sound


Lmao your reasons were you couldn't climb things to shoot vertical vertically.  were not arguing over the best platform platformer here!  

 

And then you brought up Ratchet and Clank. Yeah as if the guns from that are gonna be expected to make it into this.  The order guns are incredibly visceral and have an excellent sense of realism.  The best I've played yet. 


Jesus Crist did you even read what I wrote? I said Uncharted is an example of UNIQUE gameplay because you could climb and jump, that was an example because The Order does nothing knew in regard to cover mechanics which you claim it did.

AGAIN I took Ratchet and Clank as an example of UNIQUE weapons in a TPS. The Order guns can shred people in the game but that is not original in any way, the weapons are run of the mill TPS guns except for the thermite, in a fantasy game I would have expected more originality.