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sc94597 on 26 February 2015
Aerys said:

Pss3

That's a likely possibility as well. I guess it would depend on when the game is planned to be released. 



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Aerys on 26 February 2015

Yes PS4 is capable of rendering pré rendered CGI like DQH in réal time, anyone witha bit of common sensé would agree on that, especially after The Order, in game visuals far better than the CGI from DQH


Ok guys, just stop talking, and make a bet, even its an easy bet for me, i would like to see if you truly believe what you say :

I bet dragon quest XI wont come on 3DS and WiiU , it will only come on PlayStation ( PS4 and maybe PS3 )



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

sc94597 on 26 February 2015
Aerys said:
Yes PS4 is capable of rendering pré rendered CGI like DQH in réal time, anyone witha bit of common sensé 

And anybody with a bit of technical sense would not. 



Materia-Blade on 26 February 2015
sc94597 said:
Materia-Blade said:

The series is in need of a true high polygon and HD game. 

No it's not. The top selling Dragon Quest is DQIX. From SE's perspective, as a profit seeking business, it would make most sense to choose to develop for the platform with the lowest development costs and the most reward. That is the 3DS. A Wii U or PS4 port would just be icing on the cake. Wii U is more likely, because NIntendo publishes DQ games in the West if they're exclusives. Meaning SE saves publishing costs in the West as well. A PS4 game would have ten times the budget and probably half the sales as a 3DS release. A Wii U game probably something like five times the cost and a quarter of the sales. 

I see the 3DS game having DQVIII level graphics, which Japanese gamers are plenty happy with. 

The series hasn't moved from the graphical level of DQ 8, it needs a visual refresh. Dragon quest 9 wasn't the top selling because of visuals, it was because of DS. A 3ds main entry makes sense but they should focus on a home console entry first.



sc94597 on 26 February 2015
Materia-Blade said:
sc94597 said:

No it's not. The top selling Dragon Quest is DQIX. From SE's perspective, as a profit seeking business, it would make most sense to choose to develop for the platform with the lowest development costs and the most reward. That is the 3DS. A Wii U or PS4 port would just be icing on the cake. Wii U is more likely, because NIntendo publishes DQ games in the West if they're exclusives. Meaning SE saves publishing costs in the West as well. A PS4 game would have ten times the budget and probably half the sales as a 3DS release. A Wii U game probably something like five times the cost and a quarter of the sales. 

I see the 3DS game having DQVIII level graphics, which Japanese gamers are plenty happy with. 

The series hasn't moved from the graphical level of DQ 8, it needs a visual refresh. Dragon quest 9 wasn't the top selling because of visuals, it was because of DS. A 3ds main entry makes sense but they should focus on a home console entry first.

Why? The series sells despite the poor DS graphics, I never said it sold because of them. It's quite obvious that DQ fans don't care about the graphics, otherwise DQIX wouldn't have been the best selling DQ on hardware two generations behind what was present at that point, and which was a graphical downgrade from the PS2 game before it. 



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Materia-Blade on 26 February 2015
Aerys said:

 

Because they want it on home console, they made it clear, they want it more ambitious , including visually( equal to dragon quest heroes cinematics), and they want to bring dragon quest to the west like they said earlier, so ps4 is the only choice among japanese consoles to do that, and the most important, horii Saïd :

 

" he said that it is being developed separately, but that Dragon Quest Heroes is being released with the hope that it will build up excitement among those who play it to make them look forward to the next title. "

 

 

So after knowing that, its your choice to not see the obvious but your are warned, dont be surprised when its announced for PS4 and maybe Pss3

You keep repeating yourself without arguments or links for this "DQH CG levels" (wich ps4 can't do, by the way). Wii U and ps4 are the possibilities.



Materia-Blade on 26 February 2015
sc94597 said:
Materia-Blade said:

The series hasn't moved from the graphical level of DQ 8, it needs a visual refresh. Dragon quest 9 wasn't the top selling because of visuals, it was because of DS. A 3ds main entry makes sense but they should focus on a home console entry first.

Why? The series sells despite the poor DS graphics, I never said it sold because of them. It's quite obvious that DQ fans don't care about the graphics, otherwise DQIX wouldn't have been the best selling DQ on hardware two generations behind what was present at that point, and which was a graphical downgrade from the PS2 game before it. 

After staying stagnant for so long, it would benefit from the graphical increase.



Aerys on 26 February 2015
sc94597 said:
Aerys said:
Yes PS4 is capable of rendering pré rendered CGI like DQH in réal time, anyone witha bit of common sensé 

And anybody with a bit of technical sense would not. 


Tha fact you cant bet is because you doubt of your words ? Me, i have no doubts, i know the game wont come on WiiU or 3DS, it's so obvious.



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

97alexk on 26 February 2015

I think Wii U will sell more in japan, way more in life time sales!



Aerys on 26 February 2015
Materia-Blade said:
Aerys said:

 

Because they want it on home console, they made it clear, they want it more ambitious , including visually( equal to dragon quest heroes cinematics), and they want to bring dragon quest to the west like they said earlier, so ps4 is the only choice among japanese consoles to do that, and the most important, horii Saïd :

 

" he said that it is being developed separately, but that Dragon Quest Heroes is being released with the hope that it will build up excitement among those who play it to make them look forward to the next title. "

 

 

So after knowing that, its your choice to not see the obvious but your are warned, dont be surprised when its announced for PS4 and maybe Pss3

You keep repeating yourself without arguments or links for this "DQH CG levels" (wich ps4 can't do, by the way). Wii U and ps4 are the possibilities.


Found it : http://www.dragonquest-fan.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=12685&page=1#373261

If you cant read, it says exactly this : " the assets from the next DQ XI will equal the CG parts from DQ H trailer " ( there is nothing really impressive in these assets compared to what we already have ) so warn them it's impossible because they are doing it.

There is your argument.

 

Really, do you still believe it's coming on Wii U ? If so, i'm opened to a bet



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m