Stupid Wii U plummeting and stupid PS4 beasting are destroying my prediction this year -.-

PS4 will do a lot more than WiiU.
Overall the console market in Japan will shrink by a huge amount though. (I expect around 40-45% less).

I really can't believe there are people who think PS4 won't outsell WiiU.

Or that there are people that think the PS4 will get close to the PS3.

PS4 will outsell the Wii U.

Aerys said: Ryng_Tolu said: Both will be failure, and both are ACTUALLY failure, both below Dreamcast... Maybe PS4 will win but still. PS4 LT: 5m-5.5m Wii U: 4m-4.5m LMAO for who predict 10m PS4 LT. What ?   Those predicting 10M are much closer to the reality than the one predicting 5M, at worst, PS4 will only reach 8M if the génération is shorter, but there is absolutely no reason that it doesnt reach 10m if its as long as last gen, especially since PS4 has more big games coming that PS3 didnt have ( Persona 5, a true ambitous FF, a KH, and a DQ )

Honestly most of those game have a minute impact. 

Persona 4 sold 360k in Japan on the PS2, I won't call that "big", FF is comparable to Nintendo games in sales, KH averages about 500k and has declined in sales on more popular platforms in Japan (handhelds) and DQ Heroes is not a main series game and isn't exclusive to the PS4. If Dragon Quest does come exclusively to the PS4 (or Wii U), then that can be a game changer. 

Wanna bet on that?

PS4 could sell twice the Wii U in Japan. Wii U won't reach 5M, PS4 is able toch reach 10M imo.

Why? Both average at about 20-22k weekly including launches and holiday sales, and here are the last six weeks of PS4 vs. Wii U sales that Vgchartz has. 

Wii U                  PS4

46,565                  31,966

36,585                 39,240

12,054                 18,055

9,405                  14,314

7,321                   12,526

6,817                  15,856

AVG               AVG

19,791          21,992

And the lifetime averages

PS4

1,052,863/49 = 21,487

Wii U

2,206,968/(104 +3 +4) = 19,882

The Wii U sold 1,579,424 by the end of 2013 (a month and a half before the PS4 released.) That would take 73 weeks for the PS4 to catch up, after a discontinued Wii U, if they both remain the same in Japan on average for their lifetimes (PS4 only gains 52k per year over Wii U with its current sales so subtract that from how many years you think they'll be on the market together to get the real number of weeks.) 

So the PS4 must sell at about 20k per week in Japan a year or so after the Wii U is discontinued entirely there. 

Overall their sales are comparable and the PS4 needs to catch up to Wii U for Wii U's head start. The only way it can do that is if it either lives much longer than Wii U in Japan, which is possible but not super likely, or it gets a game which will boost its sales dramatically (main series Dragon Quest.) 

Otherwise, anything goes. 

The Wii and Wii U are very different, but it's not like the Wii didn't have the hardcore Nintendo fans, i.e. the people who currently own the Wii U. Wii just had the Nintendo audience + casual gamers who wanted motion controls. Wii U will have a nice attach rate, but let's not forget that doesn't mean much if games are few and far between.

Of course its going to outsell Wii U noone except the most loyal Nintendo fan will think otherwise. The question though is will it outsell it during 2015. I think it will be close but I favour yes it will outsell it this year