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Canada will lose economic growth, and fall behind the world in till 2017. Alberta will be hit by a mild recession, though next year should recover. Canadian dollar will probably stabilize at around 80 cents till a breakthrough occurs. Not much more to say.



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SamuelRSmith said:
Hong Kong is an interesting one. The country/city is basically at full employment right now, so it has that going for it, on top of that the Government now has enough money in the kitty to fund the next 25 months of spending, even if tax revenues dropped to 0 tomorrow, and the Gov't couldn't sell any bonds.

But it's not all rosy, the property market is in a huge bubble which is preventing young people from moving out of their parents home, it is a large cause of animosity amongst the youths.

To qualify: I live in a dinky little apartment, there's no lift, the building is extremely old and is starting to fall apart. In fact, the building is scheduled to be pulled down in the next two years.

My rent? Over $20k usd per year. I'm not even anywhere close to the central districts.

A colleague recently bought his apartment up in the New Territories. The NT is by far the cheapest area of HK, as it's nowhere near as developed as the rest of HK. His apartment is 600 square-foot, it cost around $700k USD.

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I'm not sure if this property bubble will make it out of this year, to be honest. If the USD surges, like it is predicted this year, then China and HK may end up breaking peg, or at least adjusting the peg. Such moves will be a negative for the property market, and a positive for my wallet (but disastrous for many retired HKers who use rental incomes as their pensions).

The fed keeps talking about a rate hike, but it would be moronic on their part to do so. The only pressure to hike rights comes from the freshwater economics noise machine, not from any actual market pressure. While headline unemployment numbers look good, everyone knows its because we haven't dug ourselves out of the labor-force-participation hole, which is why there's still plenty of slack in the labor market and no upwards wage pressure except at the minimum wage end (where retailers are finally starting to move because they can't get people to keep these jobs at those wages even in this economy).



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Congrats! Europe is officially in deflation. That'd be a second month in a row, which makes it a trend. The world is all the way in recovery :D



PDF said:
US will see healthy growth for at least the next couple years. It will be a good time for the stock market.

US economy is improving, but US stock valuatios are broadly high.  I'm not expecting much upside from here; a correction is needed in some segments to allow upside in others.

Over the longer 10 year term there is a lot of pressure against US equity markets due to retiring baby boomers taking money out of risky assets.  A recent FED research article says there's a good chance average P/E will head to ~8 by 2025.  This compared to average P/E of over 17 now, spells a coming "lost decade" in US stock market: http://thefelderreport.com/2014/12/30/the-most-bearish-bear-youll-find-anywhere-the-fed/



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ICStats said:
PDF said:
US will see healthy growth for at least the next couple years. It will be a good time for the stock market.

US economy is improving, but US stock valuatios are broadly high.  I'm not expecting much upside from here; a correction is needed in some segments to allow upside in others.

Over the longer 10 year term there is a lot of pressure against US equity markets due to retiring baby boomers taking money out of risky assets.  A recent FED research article says there's a good chance average P/E will head to ~8 by 2025.  This compared to average P/E of over 17 now, spells a coming "lost decade" in US stock market: http://thefelderreport.com/2014/12/30/the-most-bearish-bear-youll-find-anywhere-the-fed/

I hadn't ever really considered that, but it's a very good point.

Though at the same time, the mass exit of the baby boomers from the labor force should help tighten up the labor force, which would see new employees starting to put money *into* said accounts, although the replacement rate will be slower.



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Mr Khan said:
HBninjaX said:
Mr Khan said:
HBninjaX said:

How well do you think the economy is going in the next few years?

Not good in the US. The rich will keep getting richer due to the fed printing money. In addition open borders and executive amnesty ensure that jobs on the bottom end will be scarce. There's also going to be another bust in the housing market b/c we're seeing the same exact thing that led up to the 2008 crash. Lastly the government regulating the internet is going to halt further investments in infrastructure and is going to discourage growth in that sector. It's not looking good but the media won't tell you.

Buying into the net neutrality bogeyman, are we?

My, my.

Building pipes is expensive, if there's no profit they're going to build elsewhere. 

Because they were doing a bang-up job bringing broadband to outlying areas already.

well now it's guaranteed they won't



HBninjaX said:
Mr Khan said:

ready.

well now it's guaranteed they won't

But now laws against municipalities making their own networks are invalidated. Where the big telecoms throw bitch fits, they'll lose out to the local communities.



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there is a big chance world economy will enter a recession this year or year to come



mai said:
TheWPCTraveler said:

(No poll since I want explanations.)

I find it rather strange that I don't see a lot of discussion about the economy (in particular the consumption side of things) apart from the bottom lines of the companies involved. So, I just want to ask how you think the economy would go in the next few years, and maybe the impact on ourselves.

To make it simple, let's divide this into the three regions we normally track here:

US: I don't think the economy will be able to sustain the momentum it had in 2014. The shale oil boom is starting to blow up due to low oil prices, and...I just don't think that QE is working for the typical consumer.

EU: It'll be flat and stay flat. I doubt Grexit will happen while Tsipras is in power, though.

Japan: I don't think Abenomics is working, the economy will stay flat because everyone else is doing it now.

...or something like that. It'd be interesting to see how people here perceive the way the economy is going.

If CBs of all three are currently buying their own debt they're issuing how do you think this's going to end? Not pretty, it's a sign of an endgame.

To comment myself on the whole buyback thing, this time it's about corporate buybacksBloomberg reports record setting volume of buybacks, which "grow" the market.

Healthy stock market, ya say? :D



Mr Khan said:

The fed keeps talking about a rate hike, but it would be moronic on their part to do so. The only pressure to hike rights comes from the freshwater economics noise machine, not from any actual market pressure. While headline unemployment numbers look good, everyone knows its because we haven't dug ourselves out of the labor-force-participation hole, which is why there's still plenty of slack in the labor market and no upwards wage pressure except at the minimum wage end (where retailers are finally starting to move because they can't get people to keep these jobs at those wages even in this economy).


The USD is going up this year whether the Fed's hike rates or not. At least, that's the bet that the banks are making.