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Rankstrail said:
Hiku said:
Rankstrail said:


How can the 3DS beat it while Nintendo has already launched their new portable console? (New 3DS)

(new format of games for a new console that is backwards compatibile, like my 60GB PS3, that didn't count in PS2 sales, right?)

New 3DS is still a 3DS. The number of new exclusive games announced for it so far is just 1, and that number probably won't grow beyond even 1% of the consoles library during its lifetime. The PS3 counting for PS2 sales analogy would be more accurately compared to 3DS's ability to play DS games.

I see your point but still disagree greatly, they are not pushing the NEW format of games, ok, but still there is a new format of games (only one for now) that is for a CONSOLE that is not a 3DS (how do you call that?) They plan on selling for backwards compatibility, ok. the analogy you make with 3DS playing DS games is completely different in numbers from mine, ONLY THE very FIRST model of PS3 played PS2 games, that is a single model (of a total of maybe 20?) that can be counted as a PS2 because there is phisically both PS2 CPU and GPU inside (exactly the same chips).

If a new console doesn't exist then no one needs to buy a new one to play Xenoblade remake right? (joking) The box of the game doesn't lie, it is for a NEW console. (I count 2DS as a 3DS if you are wondering if I am biased, I let the boxes decide if one is a new console or not) Sony for example when talking about ps1 titles in recent years always tells that they are "PS1-FORMAT" titles.

People don't count it as a new console because it doesn't have enough new games to be counted as one. Not even remotely close. And if 99,99% of its library is made up of 3DS games, I wouldn't call it backwards compatibility. Because that would be the main library of games that it was primarily designed for. An actual new console is primarily designed for it's new games. This console is not. PS3 had vastly different architecture than PS2, and so they had to go out of their way to ensure that it would be backwards compatible by implementing a secondary chip. That's not the case with new 3DS. It has exactly the same hardware architecture, only a bit more powerful in some areas. It's a 3DS that has the capability of playing some new games. Not a new 3DS that has backwards compatibility. What kind of new console's library is made up of 99% backwards compatible games?
For new 3DS to be counted as a new separate console, it would have needed to be significantly different or more powerful than its predecessor, and have a focus on new games.



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I think PS4 and 3DS have a good chance.



You are probably right. current xbox and next xbox won't. The next playstation and 4ds have a chance though.



Hiku said:
Rankstrail said:
Hiku said:
Rankstrail said:


How can the 3DS beat it while Nintendo has already launched their new portable console? (New 3DS)

(new format of games for a new console that is backwards compatibile, like my 60GB PS3, that didn't count in PS2 sales, right?)

New 3DS is still a 3DS. The number of new exclusive games announced for it so far is just 1, and that number probably won't grow beyond even 1% of the consoles library during its lifetime. The PS3 counting for PS2 sales analogy would be more accurately compared to 3DS's ability to play DS games.

I see your point but still disagree greatly, they are not pushing the NEW format of games, ok, but still there is a new format of games (only one for now) that is for a CONSOLE that is not a 3DS (how do you call that?) They plan on selling for backwards compatibility, ok. the analogy you make with 3DS playing DS games is completely different in numbers from mine, ONLY THE very FIRST model of PS3 played PS2 games, that is a single model (of a total of maybe 20?) that can be counted as a PS2 because there is phisically both PS2 CPU and GPU inside (exactly the same chips).

If a new console doesn't exist then no one needs to buy a new one to play Xenoblade remake right? (joking) The box of the game doesn't lie, it is for a NEW console. (I count 2DS as a 3DS if you are wondering if I am biased, I let the boxes decide if one is a new console or not) Sony for example when talking about ps1 titles in recent years always tells that they are "PS1-FORMAT" titles.

People don't count it as a new console because it doesn't have enough new games to be counted as one. Not even remotely close. And if 99,99% of its library is made up of 3DS games, I wouldn't call it backwards compatibility. Because that would be the main library of games that it was primarily designed for. An actual new console is primarily designed for it's new games. This console is not. PS3 had vastly different architecture than PS2, and so they had to go out of their way to ensure that it would be backwards compatible by implementing a secondary chip. That's not the case with new 3DS. It has exactly the same hardware architecture, only a bit more powerful in some areas. It's a 3DS that has the capability of playing some new games. Not a new 3DS that has backwards compatibility. What kind of new console's library is made up of 99% backwards compatible games?
For new 3DS to be counted as a new separate console, it would have needed to be significantly different or more powerful than its predecessor, and have a focus on new games.


Well the Wii had a very big focus on new games but was very very similar to a gamecube right?

"What kind of new console's library is made up of 99% backwards compatible games?" it's ONLY Nintendo that does such a thing, one game is enough, that one single game is for a new console released by Nintendo after the 3DS, that single game is proof a new console has launched, they handle things very differently from other companies, number of games doesn't matter, it's just the company's plans that decided not to leave out too much old 3DS owners.

PS3 launched in EU torritory with only 6 games if I remember correctly (not that it matters very much)

No need to create again and again double standards to accomodate Nintendo's choiches, their choiches may be good or bad but I call a new console when I see one, ONE GAME IS ENOUGH.

Well there isn't ANY game only for "PS TV" for example, so is that a new console for you? (hardware on the motherboard is the exact same as the PS Vita, plus added very few components, in fact it can't use the usb for storage, pendrive, hdds....)

Other companies focus on new games, Nintendo doesn't always do that, like it did with DSi, that had its own firmware and softwares.



Persona 5 on PS3, I won't need next gen!

New 3DS is a new console right, but it's not a new generation. The DSi wasn't next gen, only had a little upgrade in specs and some exclusive things like camera. Do you consider PSP Go a console separate from PSP, just because it played a different library of games.



Yep.

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kekrot said:
New 3DS is a new console right, but it's not a new generation. The DSi wasn't next gen, only had a little upgrade in specs and some exclusive things like camera. Do you consider PSP Go a console separate from PSP, just because it played a different library of games.


I count New 3DS, 3DS and 2DS all together.



kekrot said:
New 3DS is a new console right, but it's not a new generation. The DSi wasn't next gen, only had a little upgrade in specs and some exclusive things like camera. Do you consider PSP Go a console separate from PSP, just because it played a different library of games.


Did the PSP-Go play a different library of games?



Skullwaker said:
kumagawa said:

That's less than 1% difference (0.85% difference to be more exact) that's a tie.

Also the GBA is total manufactured while the PSP is VGchartz sold to consumers.

I don't think you understand the concept of a tie. If basketball team #1 scores 100 points while basketball team #2 scores 99 points, that's not a tie. That means team #1 wins.

Do you have a source for your claim? Everywhere I've found it says units sold.

Every unti manufactured has been sold. That's kinda the point. The only GBAs left are in someone's home, broken, or second hand in a store.

PSPs are still being manufactured and sold.



Dr.Vita said:

Yes, I am predicting that no console (except Playstation home consoles) will outsell the Playstation Portable anymore.  

8. Generation?
Wii U & PS Vita failed, we should be happy if they could reach 20M lifetime. 
Nintendo 3DS and Xbox One are not strong enough, they will be close but none of them are able to reach 80M lifetime.

9. generation? 
Next Nintendo hardware: I think Nintendo won't bring us a surprise hit like the Wii anymore, the next Nintendo console will sell typical Nintendo numbers (20M-30M) and won't be a danger for the PSP. This also applies to the next Nintendo handheld, the handheld market is shrinking outside of Japan because of the smartphones and we can't change this anymore.
Next Xbox hardware: The next Xbox could be a big adversary for the PSP, but I think the next generation will again be dominated by Sony so there is no chance for the next Xbox. 
New Playstation handheld: Well, we know this will not happen after the Playstation Vita... 
Google console / Samsung hardware: I think they have no chance in the video game market. They don't have the same experience like Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo, they don't know how this market works. 

 

Wait, so what you're really saying is that they won't ever outsell Gameboy Advance anymore, since PSP could't even do that.  I see.

8 Game Boy Advance (GBA) 40.39 21.31 16.96 2.85 81.51
9 PlayStation Portable (PSP) 21.41 24.14 20.01 15.26 80.82


Kyuu said:
kekrot said:
New 3DS is a new console right, but it's not a new generation. The DSi wasn't next gen, only had a little upgrade in specs and some exclusive things like camera. Do you consider PSP Go a console separate from PSP, just because it played a different library of games.


Did the PSP-Go play a different library of games?


No, it just didnt have an UMD drive.