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platformmaster918 said:
jlmurph2 said:


From Sony fans.

And no, the majority expected 70-80

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=196871&page=1

alright so pretty appropriate levels of hype.  If people were overhyped they'd be expecting TLoU levels of critical acclaim.  That's within a margin of error anticipating Meta scores.  Plus you can never predict those crazy 20s dragging it down.  Negative press has to be taken into account when saying how hyped a game was.

As a matter of fact, looking again the majority was about 73-85. With a few overhyped guys expecting over 85.



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Like Ryse, expect The Order to disappear from threads in a hurry, at least being mentioned as a cornerstone for PS4 exclusives.

That said, expect Bloodborne to be hyped to higher levels due to the developers having a proven track record for quality.



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Completely agree. Both seem to be there to just show off the power of the console. It's absolutely sickening that a company can charge $60 for a 7-10 hour tech demo of which 1-2 hours are cutscenes or QTEs, and still have people defending them.

If both games had been $30, they would have been much easier pills to swallow. As it is, both Sony and Microsoft deserve the ire they are getting at these games, and then some.



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VanceIX said:

Completely agree. Both seem to be there to just show off the power of the console. It's absolutely sickening that a company can charge $60 for a 7-10 hour tech demo of which 1-2 hours are cutscenes or QTEs, and still have people defending them.

If both games had been $30, they would have been much easier pills to swallow. As it is, both Sony and Microsoft deserve the ire they are getting at these games, and then some.


Whether you like the game or not, people didnt make it for free.

A games length does not necessarily imply a greater amount of expenditure, but on the other hand, it does take a lot of resources to create a game as technically good as 1886, even if it is 7-10 hours long.

The reality is that investments dont always pay off (especially on new IP's), but im glad Sony keeps investing in new IP's.

Drakes fortune was very similar to this game.. short campaign, no online, linear gameplay.... but look where the uncharted series is now. This is just the beginning for ready at dawn. I'm sure they will use the money from this to build on the engine they have, hire more staff and make something on the level of ND or santa monica.



fps_d0minat0r said:
VanceIX said:

Completely agree. Both seem to be there to just show off the power of the console. It's absolutely sickening that a company can charge $60 for a 7-10 hour tech demo of which 1-2 hours are cutscenes or QTEs, and still have people defending them.

If both games had been $30, they would have been much easier pills to swallow. As it is, both Sony and Microsoft deserve the ire they are getting at these games, and then some.


Whether you like the game or not, people didnt make it for free.

A games length does not necessarily imply a greater amount of expenditure, but on the other hand, it does take a lot of resources to create a game as technically good as 1886, even if it is 7-10 hours long.

The reality is that investments dont always pay off (especially on new IP's), but im glad Sony keeps investing in new IP's.

Drakes fortune was very similar to this game.. short campaign, no online, linear gameplay.... but look where the uncharted series is now. This is just the beginning for ready at dawn. I'm sure they will use the money from this to build on the engine they have, hire more staff and make something on the level of ND or santa monica.

lol, did you really just compare Uncharted to the Order 1886? Uncharted had much more gameplay and replayability than this game. The Order 1886 is more like a glorified interactable movie.

Not to mention, the price will doubtlessly fall anyway after the negative feedback reahes most consumers. It'll drop steeply in price or be offered free with deals and such just like Ryse was. 

Companies should price their games in a way that reflects content. I don't care how pretty the game is, people don't buy games to be amazed by a technical demo. Ryse and the Order had no business being $60 for less than 10 hours of content, it's highway robbery, and should not be defended. The game would have been received much more warmly and probably still made a profit if it was decently priced. Now the entire franchise is dead in the water before it ever even took off.



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Dying Light is a great game.



jlmurph2 said:
platformmaster918 said:

alright so pretty appropriate levels of hype.  If people were overhyped they'd be expecting TLoU levels of critical acclaim.  That's within a margin of error anticipating Meta scores.  Plus you can never predict those crazy 20s dragging it down.  Negative press has to be taken into account when saying how hyped a game was.

As a matter of fact, looking again the majority was about 73-85. With a few overhyped guys expecting over 85.

exactly few.  We're in agreement there




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VanceIX said:
fps_d0minat0r said:


Whether you like the game or not, people didnt make it for free.

A games length does not necessarily imply a greater amount of expenditure, but on the other hand, it does take a lot of resources to create a game as technically good as 1886, even if it is 7-10 hours long.

The reality is that investments dont always pay off (especially on new IP's), but im glad Sony keeps investing in new IP's.

Drakes fortune was very similar to this game.. short campaign, no online, linear gameplay.... but look where the uncharted series is now. This is just the beginning for ready at dawn. I'm sure they will use the money from this to build on the engine they have, hire more staff and make something on the level of ND or santa monica.

lol, did you really just compare Uncharted to the Order 1886? Uncharted had much more gameplay and replayability than this game. The Order 1886 is more like a glorified interactable movie.

Not to mention, the price will doubtlessly fall anyway after the negative feedback reahes most consumers. It'll drop steeply in price or be offered free with deals and such just like Ryse was. 

Companies should price their games in a way that reflects content. I don't care how pretty the game is, people don't buy games to be amazed by a technical demo. Ryse and the Order had no business being $60 for less than 10 hours of content, it's highway robbery, and should not be defended. The game would have been received much more warmly and probably still made a profit if it was decently priced. Now the entire franchise is dead in the water before it ever even took off.


Going back to collect treasures isnt replayability. Nice bonus but not replayability.

Anyway you clearly dont understand simple economics so I'll let you continue believing that any game you dont approve of should be half price on launch.



FrozenXIV said:
SlayerRondo said:

After Dying light and Evolve being disappointments this is just one more for the pile.


Dying Light a Disappointment?


If you dont play games and only look at reviews (which appartly alot of people on gaming forums do that) yes Dying Light is a disapointment. Now if you actually play DL I dont think you would be disapointed.

Reviews are stupid. I find I agree with them less and less. Dying Light, AC Unity, Driveclub, and Destiny were all better games TO ME than Shadow of Mordor and GTA 5. Shadow of Mordor was good but I would not take it over any of the other games I listed.... GTA 5? Its cool for a while but god it get so boring and the inmature humor got OLD SO FAST. Franklin is the only thing that kept me going on it for a while.

Only game recently I agree with the scores is Dragon Age:I, game reviewed great and it was. I guess I agreed with Wolfenstein and Infamous both those games were about 80s.



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badgenome said:
SlayerRondo said:

I just hope Bloodborne does not follow the trend.

No chance. Bloodborne is a game, not a movie trapped in a game's body (transfilm?).


Thanks for the laugh lmao