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Q2 2008 PS3: April GTA4, May Haze, June MGS4 360: April GTA4 hmm...



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Poor PS3 Sales Means Smaller Losses

"Actually, because the number of units sold was not as high as we hoped, the loss was better than our original expectation," Quotes from Sony’s CFO Nobuyuki Oneda.

BengaBenga said:
Mars said:
Jan 1st 09

360 is on is death bed. Even the biggest vg fanboys cant deny its fall and the fact it hit its peak with Halo3 and that theres no where to go but down way down.

Its VERY simple.

Huge releases like MGS4 GT FF will push PS3 hardware way beyond the 360 during their releases, then xmas 08 will come where the PS3 brutally out sales the 360 by many millions world wide.

Also 360 wont hold on to its only strong hold (shooter heaven USA) when Sonys got the likes of MGS4 Resistance2 Killzone2 Socom Confrontation and Socom4 as Exclusives.




I don't see how 360 is on its death-bed: It's 2nd biggest game has yet to arrive, and will steal alot of PS2 users. (Yes I'm talking about GTA4).

==> but the game is also released on PS3 and EVERYBODY know this. Of course, the Xbox360 has the exclusive content but time wil tell how customers will react about this.

MGS is a big game, but no monster seller like GTA, FF and GT. probably around 3 million sales of which I expect a maximum of 500.000 new users (still a nice boost).

==> completely agree.

The problem for Sony is that the REALLY BIG games don't arrive this year: FF and GT. Until then the line-ups for both consoles are more or less equal. I'm sure PS3 will sell more than 360 this year, but it won't close the 7 million gap this year.

==> completely agree too. Even if GT5p should help the console, it is not the full game.
Also note, that MS is also laking of this type of title except maybe Ninja Gaiden (u can add Tekken6 for Sony).
So , at the end, both console are laking of STRONG title directly appealing the PS2 crowd by the brandname (FF/GT/RE). Of course, there are still silent hill/soul calibur for 2008, but there are less important and not exclusive.

Also I kinda missed the transition from Sony fans bashing Wii to suddenly a 360 bashfest.... 

 

==> when PS3 match Xbox360 sales : Xmas 2009.

 



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libellule: Glad we agree.

I know GTA4 comes to PS3, but you must agree that, even if it will sell more on PS3 ww, it will sell about 5 million at least on 360, which makes it a very big game on 360. It will also sell 360 consoles, again maybe not as much as PS3's, but every 360 sold with GTA4 is a big win for Microsoft, since this proofs that PS2 fans are not per se loyal to a brand.



Come on! It's not that hard to see people, sheez!

The PS3 will out sell the 360 in WW total sales by the end of March 2009 - easy.

The PSP will significantly lessen the gap with the DS by the end of their respective production cycles to a tone of btw [55-60%(DS) : 40-45% (PSP)] market share.
This is not that hard to see especially now that there's enough data to extrapolate a pattern from and it's much much easier to see now than a year ago.



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I believe I said Mid of 09. Or whenever FFXIII hits US/FFXIII versus hits Japan. Whenever comes first.

It's up to Microsoft to do something to reverse the trend. Massive price-cute needed.



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: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
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Chubear said:
Come on! It's not that hard to see people, sheez!

The PS3 will out sell the 360 in WW total sales by the end of March 2009 - easy.

The PSP will significantly lessen the gap with the DS by the end of their respective production cycles to a tone of btw [55-60%(DS) : 40-45% (PSP)] market share.
This is not that hard to see especially now that there's enough data to extrapolate a pattern from and it's much much easier to see now than a year ago.

You're being sarcastic here, right? If not, that's one of the dumbest things I've seen posted on this website in a long time.



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End of 2008 totals: Wii 42m, 360 24m, PS3 18.5m (made Jan. 4, 2008)

starcraft said:
Torillian said:
So are you counting Valkyrie Chronicles and Disgaea III as SRPG's and not RPG's. That seems like a strange idea to me.

On the other hand you could be debating their quality....which I would like to hear if possible. Regardless the rest of your post seems plausible.

added after a thought: I enjoyed Folklore alot....so I disagree in no "good" RPG's being on the PS3 now.

My apologies, I forgot about Valkyrie Chronicles and Disgaea. They should be of reasonable quality. I also forgot the Xbox 360 exclusive Tales. I still think in numbers and quality the Xbox 360's RPG outfit rips the PS3's a new one. That will continue until after FFXIII. About a year after that title the PS3 wil start to get a number of JRPG's from development houses waiting for FFXIII to expand to consoles JRPG userbase.

I'm sorry but the quality of Folklore just isn't comparable to Mass Effect, Two Worlds, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata or Lair:)


 eternal sonata, two worlds. did those games even sell 500k? sum1 o check for me cuase my comp is way to damn slow.

 

blue dragon? i thought that game only sold in japan. you also mention 360 racers will always be better than ps3. pgr4. thats your best example of a 360 racer? what a joke. that game sucked, and i dont think anyone would disagree with me. forza is your best hope at racing game