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OnlyForDisplay on 16 February 2015
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Looks like a pretty bad FW for Evolve.

 

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tbone51 on 16 February 2015
binary solo said:
tbone51 said:


MH4U > 16,733 (Gta5)

Besides that is pretty good for MH.

As for Zelda, it should be well over 20k. A remake of the less popular Main Zelda's.  Not Amazing, but good debut's.

Not saying you're wrong, but where is the calc for GTAV being 16,733? If we look at the GTA drops from the lst VGC numbers that brings us to ~17,100. But I'm inclined to go for the direct reference to MH3 on 3DS as GFK has given us the exact % increase in relation to that title so we don't need any indirect reference to GTAV. If you believe MH4 >16,733 that means MH3 got >8,500 fw in the UK. That is a reasonably credible figure because it's still on the low side. 95% up on MH3 is good for sure. But I think GFK is overstating things a bit by saying that's real traction. It remains to be seen whether it will leg it out to also double LTD sales, or if as is the case with a lot of sequels there is somewhat more front loading of sales. 

LoZ could be over 30K, we don't know. All we know is probably more than 15K and definitely <40K.

"Good for a Zelda / MH game on 3DS in the UK." Is both good and bad. Because in general good for 3DS in the UK isn't actually good across platform.

I gotta say 57% boost for N3DS also isn't setting the world on fire either, given 3DS's fairly low base (if VGC hardware is roughly correct). If the reception to N3DS is this muted around the world then we can expect a flat year at best for 3DS, which should mean a new handheld in 2016. If Nintendo is looking at a unified platform for home console and handheld it probably means both launching in the same year, which is looking more and more like 2016.


Got it from gaf. (GTA5 Sales)

Also for 3ds, its 57% boost to overall Sales not to 3ds only^ You keep reading it wrong though its common mistake.



tak13 on 16 February 2015
tbone51 said:
binary solo said:

Not saying you're wrong, but where is the calc for GTAV being 16,733? If we look at the GTA drops from the lst VGC numbers that brings us to ~17,100. But I'm inclined to go for the direct reference to MH3 on 3DS as GFK has given us the exact % increase in relation to that title so we don't need any indirect reference to GTAV. If you believe MH4 >16,733 that means MH3 got >8,500 fw in the UK. That is a reasonably credible figure because it's still on the low side. 95% up on MH3 is good for sure. But I think GFK is overstating things a bit by saying that's real traction. It remains to be seen whether it will leg it out to also double LTD sales, or if as is the case with a lot of sequels there is somewhat more front loading of sales. 

LoZ could be over 30K, we don't know. All we know is probably more than 15K and definitely <40K.

"Good for a Zelda / MH game on 3DS in the UK." Is both good and bad. Because in general good for 3DS in the UK isn't actually good across platform.

I gotta say 57% boost for N3DS also isn't setting the world on fire either, given 3DS's fairly low base (if VGC hardware is roughly correct). If the reception to N3DS is this muted around the world then we can expect a flat year at best for 3DS, which should mean a new handheld in 2016. If Nintendo is looking at a unified platform for home console and handheld it probably means both launching in the same year, which is looking more and more like 2016.


Got it from gaf. (GTA5 Sales)

Also for 3ds, its 57% boost to overall Sales not to 3ds only^ You keep reading it wrong though its common mistake.


I said it to him in another thread,many fallen into that trap because they didn't read text carefully!:P



binary solo on 16 February 2015
tbone51 said:
binary solo said:

Not saying you're wrong, but where is the calc for GTAV being 16,733? If we look at the GTA drops from the lst VGC numbers that brings us to ~17,100. But I'm inclined to go for the direct reference to MH3 on 3DS as GFK has given us the exact % increase in relation to that title so we don't need any indirect reference to GTAV. If you believe MH4 >16,733 that means MH3 got >8,500 fw in the UK. That is a reasonably credible figure because it's still on the low side. 95% up on MH3 is good for sure. But I think GFK is overstating things a bit by saying that's real traction. It remains to be seen whether it will leg it out to also double LTD sales, or if as is the case with a lot of sequels there is somewhat more front loading of sales. 

LoZ could be over 30K, we don't know. All we know is probably more than 15K and definitely <40K.

"Good for a Zelda / MH game on 3DS in the UK." Is both good and bad. Because in general good for 3DS in the UK isn't actually good across platform.

I gotta say 57% boost for N3DS also isn't setting the world on fire either, given 3DS's fairly low base (if VGC hardware is roughly correct). If the reception to N3DS is this muted around the world then we can expect a flat year at best for 3DS, which should mean a new handheld in 2016. If Nintendo is looking at a unified platform for home console and handheld it probably means both launching in the same year, which is looking more and more like 2016.


Got it from gaf. (GTA5 Sales)

Also for 3ds, its 57% boost to overall Sales not to 3ds only^ You keep reading it wrong though its common mistake.

And where did GAF get it from? So GTAV slightly overtracked on VGC over the last few weeks, but not badly over tracked.

Well that was the first time for me I believe but yes I read it wrong. Must get gooder Englandese.

Even 20K for N3DS can't be regarded as a massive shot in the arm for 3DS sales. It's a good boost and could lead to a reasonable baseline boost. But it's not going to put 3DS sales back close to its former peak. 



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tak13 on 16 February 2015
binary solo said:
tbone51 said:


Got it from gaf. (GTA5 Sales)

Also for 3ds, its 57% boost to overall Sales not to 3ds only^ You keep reading it wrong though its common mistake.

And where did GAF get it from? So GTAV slightly overtracked on VGC over the last few weeks, but not badly over tracked.

Well that was the first time for me I believe but yes I read it wrong. Must get gooder Englandese.

Even 20K for N3DS can't be regarded as a massive shot in the arm for 3DS sales. It's a good boost and could lead to a reasonable baseline boost. But it's not going to put 3DS sales back close to its former peak. 


It's near 30k...And you better don't judge that from the UK,for obvious reasons...



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binary solo on 16 February 2015
tak13 said:
binary solo said:

And where did GAF get it from? So GTAV slightly overtracked on VGC over the last few weeks, but not badly over tracked.

Well that was the first time for me I believe but yes I read it wrong. Must get gooder Englandese.

Even 20K for N3DS can't be regarded as a massive shot in the arm for 3DS sales. It's a good boost and could lead to a reasonable baseline boost. But it's not going to put 3DS sales back close to its former peak. 


It's near 30k...And you better don't judge that from the UK,for obvious reasons...

I'm only talking UK here. And how can it be near 30K? If VGC HW sales are relatively accurate then previous week HW will be about 30K, 57% increase will be about 17K add ~4K to that and you get ~21K.

Also, globally speaking I doubt N3DS will completely reinvigorate 3DS sales. Japan had 3DS for a good few months in 2014, but that still didn't stop 3DS sales from going from >5M in 2013 to ~3M in 2014. And it appears 3DS has gone back to pre-N3DS levels in Japan. N3DS actually had a worse holiday period than 3DS did for 2013 in Japan. Without the N3DS boost this year Japan will be down even more. With N3DS coming out so early this year I suspect by the time we get to the holidays the demand will have gone down again and that without a price cut holiday 2015, globally, will be slightly lower than holiday 2014. 3DS might end up slightly above 10 million (so slightly more than 2014), but it won't get to 14 million (3DS's peak)



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"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

OfficerRaichu15 on 16 February 2015
binary solo said:
tak13 said:


It's near 30k...And you better don't judge that from the UK,for obvious reasons...

I'm only talking UK here. And how can it be near 30K? If VGC HW sales are relatively accurate then previous week HW will be about 30K, 57% increase will be about 17K add ~4K to that and you get ~21K.

Also, globally speaking I doubt N3DS will completely reinvigorate 3DS sales. Japan had 3DS for a good few months in 2014, but that still didn't stop 3DS sales from going from >5M in 2013 to ~3M in 2014. And it appears 3DS has gone back to pre-N3DS levels in Japan. N3DS actually had a worse holiday period than 3DS did for 2013 in Japan. Without the N3DS boost this year Japan will be down even more. With N3DS coming out so early this year I suspect by the time we get to the holidays the demand will have gone down again and that without a price cut holiday 2015, globally, will be slightly lower than holiday 2014. 3DS might end up slightly above 10 million (so slightly more than 2014), but it won't get to 14 million (3DS's peak)

Neogaf is gonna make fun of you for this because when a chartzer doubts gaf theyll make fun of you like they did to dernebel one time.

So be careful.



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Kerotan on 16 February 2015
OfficerRaichu15 said:
binary solo said:

I'm only talking UK here. And how can it be near 30K? If VGC HW sales are relatively accurate then previous week HW will be about 30K, 57% increase will be about 17K add ~4K to that and you get ~21K.

Also, globally speaking I doubt N3DS will completely reinvigorate 3DS sales. Japan had 3DS for a good few months in 2014, but that still didn't stop 3DS sales from going from >5M in 2013 to ~3M in 2014. And it appears 3DS has gone back to pre-N3DS levels in Japan. N3DS actually had a worse holiday period than 3DS did for 2013 in Japan. Without the N3DS boost this year Japan will be down even more. With N3DS coming out so early this year I suspect by the time we get to the holidays the demand will have gone down again and that without a price cut holiday 2015, globally, will be slightly lower than holiday 2014. 3DS might end up slightly above 10 million (so slightly more than 2014), but it won't get to 14 million (3DS's peak)

Neogaf is gonna make fun of you for this because when a chartzer doubts gaf theyll make fun of you like they did to dernebel one time.

So be careful.


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mountaindewslave on 16 February 2015
nanzano said:

3DS HW only 57% more than the previews week with new 3DS?  In other word if it was 5k before it is around 7.5k this week which means less than any holiday week? Looks like bad advertising in UK tbh


let's be real, strong advertising or not, Nintendo was not going to perform that well magically in the UK with the 3DS now simply due to a Zelda remake and system update. Nintendo has not done particularly well in the UK for practically over a decade



tbone51 on 16 February 2015
binary solo said:
tak13 said:


It's near 30k...And you better don't judge that from the UK,for obvious reasons...

I'm only talking UK here. And how can it be near 30K? If VGC HW sales are relatively accurate then previous week HW will be about 30K, 57% increase will be about 17K add ~4K to that and you get ~21K.

Also, globally speaking I doubt N3DS will completely reinvigorate 3DS sales. Japan had 3DS for a good few months in 2014, but that still didn't stop 3DS sales from going from >5M in 2013 to ~3M in 2014. And it appears 3DS has gone back to pre-N3DS levels in Japan. N3DS actually had a worse holiday period than 3DS did for 2013 in Japan. Without the N3DS boost this year Japan will be down even more. With N3DS coming out so early this year I suspect by the time we get to the holidays the demand will have gone down again and that without a price cut holiday 2015, globally, will be slightly lower than holiday 2014. 3DS might end up slightly above 10 million (so slightly more than 2014), but it won't get to 14 million (3DS's peak)


Your going a little too far with N3DS, nobody except a select few are even thinking this^ If anything most people want/think that N3ds will stop the major decline from happening in 2015/2016. As of Now,it has happened in Japan and it did its job. YoY is down 10% so far which is better than wat it could of been (and its still by far the market leader there).

If anything people think it'll be close to flat YoY, or slightly down(with of course some hope of being slightly up YoY).

As of now, its too early to tell yet. Its still funny because the 3ds hasnt gotten a price cut in almost 4 years now. (yes i know 2ds, but its not a 3ds/xl)

Overall, nobody should think 3DS will go back up to/close to its peak, its mre of helping sales toward the end.