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fkusumot said:
SSPOrSK said:
Nintendo seems to be a victim of their own success.  [...]
This is like the biggest load of crap I've ever read. Whoever wrote this has a serious problem dealing with reality. Actually, on second thought, this looks like MS FUD. No better time than now to BLAME WII FIT!
I wish I could be victimized like that.

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ssj12 said:
actually EGM, shock, had a decent article on this. 3rd parties might have a hard time appealing to people who only play Wii Sports/Play/Fit/Music/etc

Yeah man, but the obviously flawed assumption made here in these articles is that soon, the Nintendo fad will die down, and the Wii will begin to be outpaced by other consoles.  "How many of those consoles are going to gamers"

 

That's past tense. It's not as if the Wii isn't still destroying everything on the market in sales of hardware and software.

 

Every good 3rd party game released has sold as well as expected, and certainly much better than they would have sold on the gamecube.

 

It's obviously incorrect, the assertion that Nintendo has hurt itself with the Wii or the DS, in fact, they probably saved the Nintendo brand now, and far into the future.

 

The point is, articles like this use generalizations based on assumptions that have been disproven time and time again, and are written only to be controversial, to marginalize the Wii, and to hook passers by with their morbid assertions that Nintendo is a "victim" or what have you.

 

The simple fact is, Nintendo is the most sucessful company in gaming, always have been. Now, they are also far and away the highest selling and most popular. All decent 3rd party games, and lots of shitty ones have sold very well on the system, and if their performance were a test, and their results in a snapshot were any indication, Nintendo passes with flying colors.

 

I know you would agree. 



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

let me quess your an anti wii fanboy?



Third party devs are a big part of the blame. When they make a good game (Zack and Wiki, MoH, Trauma Center: NB, etc.) THE DONT MARKET IT!!!! Or they will advertise the hell out of it but they will rush the game like Red Steel.

Third party devs HAVE to invest in their games. The publishers have to put good dev teams together and then market the game. People say there arent any hardcores on wii or there are not enough of them. Well I say that is the biggest BS I have ever heard. The Wii sells out faster than hell and you have to wait in lines to do that. Non gamers generally wont do that. They will not sit at your local EB games. Look at the games that did sell well. They are mostly hardcore. The games that were developed right and marketed correctly sold an easy million.

DEAL WITH IT most of the audience on Wii is still hardcore. Its just there are more non gamers on wii than other consoles.

You dont see alot of third party devs doing this because they are so F###### lazy with Wii.

Conversely there is a bad trend with Nintendo fans. They are so stupid sometimes. All they will buy this year is SSBB, MK Wii, and the next big multiplat game that is done correctly on Wii (GHIII). These foolish fanboys will ignore Bully, Okami, de Blob, Pikmin 3, NMH, HotD 2 and 3 and so many more. I would nott be surprised to find the ultra informed Nintendo fan more inclined to buy 5 copies of SSBB rather than try the few good third party games.

THIS is a 2 way deal people. Its a give and take. We need to show companies we are not just going to buy the next big Zelda and the companies need to show us they wont just give us a crappy PS2 port.



RolStoppable said:
RolStoppable said:

This post looks like a FUD article from last year...

Now what's surprising me the most are two things:

  1. The only other VGC member I have seen using the bolded part was Dodece. Of course he didn't have a source to back up this claim either.
  2. The whole text is written in a memorable pattern. I mean, the use of periods is just weird. Who writes like this? Except for Dodece of course.

So what could this mean? Here are some random guesses:

  1. SSPOrSK found a provocating post in Dodece's posting history and decided to post it just for his own amusement.
  2. SSPOrSK is an alternate account of Dodece and he decided to post his old work again.
  3. Pure coincidence, nothing more to it.
Anyway, in this day and age, nonsense like the OP is ridiculed, evidenced by the flood of animal pictures in this thread. I just wanted to point out some things that I have observed. Make from that what you will.


Here's an interesting link:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=8449


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Well, RolStoppable has solved the case. Excellent detective work. I assume Kim Possible helped?



ZenfoldorVGI said:
ssj12 said:
actually EGM, shock, had a decent article on this. 3rd parties might have a hard time appealing to people who only play Wii Sports/Play/Fit/Music/etc

Yeah man, but the obviously flawed assumption made here in these articles is that soon, the Nintendo fad will die down, and the Wii will begin to be outpaced by other consoles.  "How many of those consoles are going to gamers"

 

That's past tense. It's not as if the Wii isn't still destroying everything on the market in sales of hardware and software.

 

Every good 3rd party game released has sold as well as expected, and certainly much better than they would have sold on the gamecube.

 

It's obviously incorrect, the assertion that Nintendo has hurt itself with the Wii or the DS, in fact, they probably saved the Nintendo brand now, and far into the future.

 

The point is, articles like this use generalizations based on assumptions that have been disproven time and time again, and are written only to be controversial, to marginalize the Wii, and to hook passers by with their morbid assertions that Nintendo is a "victim" or what have you.

 

The simple fact is, Nintendo is the most sucessful company in gaming, always have been. Now, they are also far and away the highest selling and most popular. All decent 3rd party games, and lots of shitty ones have sold very well on the system, and if their performance were a test, and their results in a snapshot were any indication, Nintendo passes with flying colors.

 

I know you would agree. 


 You sir, are a wise man. And I agree indeed.



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the Wii is an epidemic.

RolStoppable said:

Here's an interesting link:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=8449


 Hahahah!

Pwnd in the FACE! 



"I mean, c'mon, Viva Pinata, a game with massive marketing, didn't sell worth a damn to the "sophisticated" 360 audience, despite near-universal praise--is that a sign that 360 owners are a bunch of casual ignoramuses that can't get their heads around a 'gardening' sim? Of course not. So let's please stop trying to micro-analyze one game out of hundreds and using it as the poster child for why good, non-1st party, games can't sell on Wii. (Everyone frequenting this site knows this is nonsense, and yet some of you just can't let it go because it's the only scab you have left to pick at after all your other "Wii will phail1!!1" straw men arguments have been put to the torch.)" - exindguy on Boom Blocks

I guess its another job well done by Kimpossible...the question is, is the culprit SSPOrSK? Is it Dodece? Will we see more lolcat pics? I guess we will never know....



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