Yes, finally! Maybe we'll get a really good Spider-Man movie now!! I'm hyped!
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TheGoldenBoy said:
I completely agree. Mutants are the backbone of the Marvel universe. However, I doubt Marvel would want Fox to keep control of the characters and I don't see how a deal would benefit Fox in anyway besides a little extra money. They're still making great, profitable X-Men films and they've built a pretty nice universe. With that said, I wish Hugh Jackman would get a cameo in a MCU film. It would be fucking awesome just to see a glimpse of him with the other Avengers. |
Creating new characters won't help them as people watch the films for the characters they know. Look at the Day of Future Past. A setting in the future and they only use known characters? They could have easily made them all up but didn't. I wonder if they aren't allowed create main characters that are new mutant characters.
Anyway, Marvel/Disney are getting frustrated with Fox's lack of co-operation. X-men have had a good history with cartoons but they are no longer being made. Claremont said that they aren't allowed to create new mutant characters in X-men which might explain why there was a sudden stop after Bendis created his little few.
Even then, how long can Fox hold on to the characters? Sure they've done a reboot to a point (time travel) but Hugh Jackman can't play Wolverine forever and many watch the films just for him.
Hmm, pie.
I love Spider-Man an he was always my favourite hero. That said, had to endure three terrible films and then two mediocre ones. Seeing other characters get good movies made me want a good Spider-Man one that much more. If this is what it takes I will be thrilled.
the_dengle said:
They're going to get backlash if they do Peter Parker's origin story for the third time in 15 years, too. They will get backlash no matter what they do. People know who Spider-Man is. They can recognize the costume even if it doesn't look exactly the way they're used to it. If you put big bold letters spelling SPIDER-MAN on a poster they will not be confused. If the movie is good I really don't care what they do. But I think that the Amazing movies proved that the red-and-blue Peter Parker story isn't a guarantee of popularity. Meanwhile Marvel is greenlighting movies left and right for characters who aren't well known to the general public in the least bit -- Guardians of the Galaxy, Inhumans, Black Panther, hell even Doctor Strange and Ms Marvel are relatively obscure. Guardians proved that the success of their films is not dependant on what "the majority of people know." I think people are tired of Peter Parker. I know there are still fans of the Toby Macguire films who turn their noses up at the very suggestion of rebooting the character so soon after shutting those down. There will probably be a similar group of fans of the Andrew Garfield films who won't easily warm up to the idea of him being replaced. Telling both of those fanbases that the movies aren't being replaced or rebooted and introducing the new films almost as a sequel to the basic idea of the older ones is a simple way around that. It's weird how you know Superior Spider-Man by name but apparently not Miles Morales. |
I stopped reading Ultimate Spiderman when Carnage melted and killed Gwen Stacy. The simbionts are very weak (as characters) in the Ultimate universe. But that aside, I think they just wanted an excuse to kill Gwen, when there was no need for it outside the fact that she dies in the regular universe. The real tragedy of Gwen's death wasn't the fact that Peter tried and failed to save her, it's the possibility of he being the cause of death, because of the broken neck. If you have some outside force create some sort of killer goo with no sentient conscience whatsoever, and then that blob killing Peter's love interest because she was at the wrong place and in the wrong time, it has no point besides of replacing her with someone else (I think they did with Kitty Pride, or MJ Wattson, or a clone of Gwen, I don't know, comic books are confusing) and Spiderman feeling bad because "superheroism hurts everyone around me syndrome". I haven't read Superior Spiderman either, mostly because the backlash was so big after the Doc Oc thing, I prefer just reading something else.
| shikamaru317 said: I like that Spiderman will now be able to appear in other Marvel movies, I dislike the fact that Sony will still have the rights. Sony's Spiderman reboot sucked imo, nowhere near as good as the Sam Raimi Spiderman movies. I doubt I'll be watching any future Spiderman movies, and that's a sad fact since he's my favorite superhero : ( All you had to do Marvel, was get Raimi, Tobey, Kirsten, and Rosemary back for Spiderman 4 and you would have had an amazing movie. You done goofed. |
Wasn't sam raimi's movies from sony too?
TheGoldenBoy said:
Not going to happen. I don't see why Fox would give up control of X-Men. Fantastic 4 I could see them giving up if the reboot sucks, but not X-Men. |
Fox's should give up control of Xmen movies because all of their xmen movies are horrible and ruining the franchise brand. Marvel needs to work on getting that back asap.
Good news that spiderman will be joining the avengers but I feel it'd be more important if Wolverine was in on it since he was made an avenger before spiderman and Wolverine and Captian America have a history together.
the_dengle said:
Most likely. It's confirmed he'll appear in a MCU movie before July 2017. It's far too late to squeeze him into Age of Ultron or Ant-Man. The next movie in line is Civil War, which hasn't started filming yet. The other two options are Doctor Strange and Guardians of the Galaxy 2. While Spidey and Doctor Strange have crossed paths quite a few times before in various media, I think they'll prefer to let Doctor Strange stand on his own for a movie before upstaging him with a Spider-Man cameo. And it just doesn't make much sense to put Spidey in Guardians. Best of all, this gives me hope that they will gloss over Peter Parker's origin story. By necessity, his involvement in the Civil War storyline is tied to an older Peter who has been Spider-Man for a while already. I suppose they could make his 2017 film a prequel to his appearance in Civil War, but I hope they don't. I think most people who care even the smallest, tiniest amount about comic books are probably familiar with Spider-Man's origin story. They could also simply do this, which would be a good way to avoid the rebooted-again staleness in my opinion.
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Since the announcement of Captain America: Civil Wars and I was like "OK, but how they'll do it with spiderman??" They can swap him with another character but it'll be different. If this happens, then 2016 will be one heck of a battle between the trinity (superman, batman and wonder woman) and the marvel crowd (ironman, captain America and spiderman)
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| V-r0cK said:
Good news that spiderman will be joining the avengers but I feel it'd be more important if Wolverine was in on it since he was made an avenger before spiderman and Wolverine and Captian America have a history together. |
I hope they keep Spider-man far away from the Avengers. He may be in all these groups now but he never was before 2006 until Bendis got involved. He was however an honoury member all those years before. On the other hand Murderine should be nowhere near the Avengers, feature in a Cap film sure but not Avengers. Spider-man was a member before Wolverine.
Hmm, pie.
The Fury said:
I hope they keep Spider-man far away from the Avengers. He may be in all these groups now but he never was before 2006 until Bendis got involved. He was however an honoury member all those years before. On the other hand Murderine should be nowhere near the Avengers, feature in a Cap film sure but not Avengers. Spider-man was a member before Wolverine. |
My mistake, for some reason I thought Wolverine was an avenger before Spiderman. I doubt Marvel will go through all this trouble with Sony to not have alot of spiderman with the avengers, but Spiderman can hold his own without the avengers. Now I wish Fox would give up Xmen so Marvel can make an Avengers vs Xmen movie.
V-r0cK said:
My mistake, for some reason I thought Wolverine was an avenger before Spiderman. I doubt Marvel will go through all this trouble with Sony to not have alot of spiderman with the avengers, but Spiderman can hold his own without the avengers. Now I wish Fox would give up Xmen so Marvel can make an Avengers vs Xmen movie. |
Easily made, they joined officially in the same story arc (New Avengers #1-6 in 2006). It's not Marvel remember, it's Disney. Disney want ownership of their characters again to do with as they please, not let someone own a part of them. Maybe you are right and we will see Spider-man in an Avengers film he just will be so oddly placed it would be laughable (to me anyway) but hey, can't be anyworse than Sunsport and Cannonball in Avengers right now. Anyone reading that jibberish? It's like Hickman threw up on a piece of paper then gave it to editorial.
Also, if the plot replicates Avenger vs X-men then no, we need a whole new story and one that doesn't obviously paint the X-men as bad guys.
Hmm, pie.
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