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Mummelmann said:

I could have sworn that Nintendo fans spent the past 2-3 years raging on about how remakes are a total cop-out and meaningless software, yet this is what Iwata wants to help the 3DS keep relevance in the market? I am honestly shocked to my core at how poor Nintendo have been at learning from their mistakes and reading markets since 2010-2011, I believe they need fresh blood at the helm and they need to allocate more influence and decision making in the West if they want to cause ripples in the industry from here on out.

Also; no N3DS for Western markets, say hello to massive global declines yoy... And he somehow expects profits to increase using these methods.


You could of sworn a few Nintendo fans, like a few of every type of fans raging on remakes are a total cop out. No need to act like their the majority in this. (or only ones, just because ps4/x1 had a ton of them 1st year)

That said there's like what? 2 at most remakes/ports per year from Nintendo across from both their HH/HC. Another thing is the games they put out aren't just a year old port.

Anywayz, i personally dont really care as i dontlike remakes/ports in general and would rather thm spend their time on making new games.



Well, he wouldnt think or make decisions like this if he knew that people wont agree to them. Lets see how this goes



Mummelmann said:

I could have sworn that Nintendo fans spent the past 2-3 years raging on about how remakes are a total cop-out and meaningless software, yet this is what Iwata wants to help the 3DS keep relevance in the market? I am honestly shocked to my core at how poor Nintendo have been at learning from their mistakes and reading markets since 2010-2011, I believe they need fresh blood at the helm and they need to allocate more influence and decision making in the West if they want to cause ripples in the industry from here on out.

Also; no N3DS for Western markets, say hello to massive global declines yoy... And he somehow expects profits to increase using these methods.


My guess is Nintendo's "big gun" internal teams are tied up working on launch/1st year software for the 3DS successor as we speak. 

As such they probably figure back stuffing the 3DS with remakes and smartphone game ports is a cheap/low resource way to keep releases coming to the system through 2015 and into 2016. Like the Xenoblade port for 3DS isn't even done by any of Nintendo's Japanese teams, it was farmed out to Monster Games. Stuff like that. 

Maybe we'll get like a Mario Galaxy port or Mario 64/Sunshine remakes for the 3DS or something. 



Mario 64 3DS? Making a WiiU remake that has all the DS content would be a better idea to be honest!



                
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tbone51 said:
Mummelmann said:

I could have sworn that Nintendo fans spent the past 2-3 years raging on about how remakes are a total cop-out and meaningless software, yet this is what Iwata wants to help the 3DS keep relevance in the market? I am honestly shocked to my core at how poor Nintendo have been at learning from their mistakes and reading markets since 2010-2011, I believe they need fresh blood at the helm and they need to allocate more influence and decision making in the West if they want to cause ripples in the industry from here on out.

Also; no N3DS for Western markets, say hello to massive global declines yoy... And he somehow expects profits to increase using these methods.


You could of sworn a few Nintendo fans, like a few of every type of fans raging on remakes are a total cop out. No need to act like their the majority in this. (or only ones, just because ps4/x1 had a ton of them 1st year)

That said there's like what? 2 at most remakes/ports per year from Nintendo across from both their HH/HC. Another thing is the games they put out aren't just a year old port.

Anywayz, i personally dont really care as i dontlike remakes/ports in general and would rather thm spend their time on making new games.


I don't care all that much about remakes either, especially if it's the same game with only redone visuals, as opposed to a new game entirely with added mechanics etc. The reason I mentioned Nintendo fans is the massive storm of critique against games like "The Last of Us" remake and "Halo: Master Chief Collection" by Nintendo fans on this site, citing that "remakes are what are supposed to sell these consoles? The Wii U has all the best games and exclusives".

Regardless of whether or not they are year old ports; the fact still remains that Iwata seemingly thinks this will be sufficient for the 3DS this year, with it already looming over a very likely big decline yoy, especially since there won't be a N3DS in the West and no price cut. It's almost as if he doesn't care at all sometimes; not only have their ND's shifted focus back onto the 3DS again; but the main platform for their income will rely on semi-decent Japanese hardware sales and remakes to keep it afloat? It's a horrible, horrible plan at best.



tbone51 said:
Mummelmann said:

I could have sworn that Nintendo fans spent the past 2-3 years raging on about how remakes are a total cop-out and meaningless software, yet this is what Iwata wants to help the 3DS keep relevance in the market? I am honestly shocked to my core at how poor Nintendo have been at learning from their mistakes and reading markets since 2010-2011, I believe they need fresh blood at the helm and they need to allocate more influence and decision making in the West if they want to cause ripples in the industry from here on out.

Also; no N3DS for Western markets, say hello to massive global declines yoy... And he somehow expects profits to increase using these methods.


You could of sworn a few Nintendo fans, like a few of every type of fans raging on remakes are a total cop out. No need to act like their the majority in this. (or only ones, just because ps4/x1 had a ton of them 1st year)

That said there's like what? 2 at most remakes/ports per year from Nintendo across from both their HH/HC. Another thing is the games they put out aren't just a year old port.

Anywayz, i personally dont really care as i dontlike remakes/ports in general and would rather thm spend their time on making new games.


His accusation don't ring a bell. We've been screaming for a Majora's Mask remake/remaster for years now and yet we've been raging about how remakes are a cop out.



Mummelmann said:
tbone51 said:


You could of sworn a few Nintendo fans, like a few of every type of fans raging on remakes are a total cop out. No need to act like their the majority in this. (or only ones, just because ps4/x1 had a ton of them 1st year)

That said there's like what? 2 at most remakes/ports per year from Nintendo across from both their HH/HC. Another thing is the games they put out aren't just a year old port.

Anywayz, i personally dont really care as i dontlike remakes/ports in general and would rather thm spend their time on making new games.


I don't care all that much about remakes either, especially if it's the same game with only redone visuals, as opposed to a new game entirely with added mechanics etc. The reason I mentioned Nintendo fans is the massive storm of critique against games like "The Last of Us" remake and "Halo: Master Chief Collection" by Nintendo fans on this site, citing that "remakes are what are supposed to sell these consoles? The Wii U has all the best games and exclusives".

Regardless of whether or not they are year old ports; the fact still remains that Iwata seemingly thinks this will be sufficient for the 3DS this year, with it already looming over a very likely big decline yoy, especially since there won't be a N3DS in the West and no price cut. It's almost as if he doesn't care at all sometimes; not only have their ND's shifted focus back onto the 3DS again; but the main platform for their income will rely on semi-decent Japanese hardware sales and remakes to keep it afloat? It's a horrible, horrible plan at best.

I should clarify the New 3DS is coming to the West, it just wasn't available for the holidays, I worded that kinda weird. 

I think portable remakes don't get as much flak because they offer the new functionality of being able to experience the game on the go. Whereas console remakes generally don't bring much new to the table other than better graphics sometimes. 

Though personally I never really understood the knock against remakes. I think the issue is more about when you have a new platform, you want new platform defining software for the console upfront. Remakes coming later on in the lifecycle aren't as big of a deal. 



To me, it's pretty obvious that all these remakes and mobile games are being used to fluff out the final year and a half of the 3DS with some sendoff software.

So yeah, I have no issue with this. The sooner I can get its successor, the better.



I guess it makes sense, since they are and will be focusing a lot on the Wii U.

And i think the 3DS has accomplished something good already.



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