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When XBO/PS4 will break the peak?

2014 1 11.11%
 
2015 2 22.22%
 
2016 3 33.33%
 
2017 0 0%
 
after 3 33.33%
 
Total:9
itsFizz said:
To be hnest I can see both PS4 and XBO down yoy in 2015. However I think 2016 will be significantly up compared to 2014 and 2017 will be the peak with both of them phasing out in 2019-2020. Yup I think year 4 will be the peak or at least flat with 2016(thus making 2016 the Peak)

15 will be a growth year, Jan feb might be a bit slower sincle last year had post launch hype still driving sales.

But when Games kick in hard, ill be different.  Plus this will be the year of Halo5 Uncharted4 MGS5, ill be higher sales through software.  Not even counting on potential price cuts.  Which should easily drive 2015 past 2014 sales.



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Ryng_Tolu said:
Captain_Tom said:

The 3DS is its own thing with its own problems (Competition from mobile etc).  I expect the PS4 to sell 20-24m this year, and then 18-22m next year.  I don't think they will fall off a cliff that until the PS5 is out.  Keep in mind they still have the $300 and $200 price points to come.

As for the Xbox One, yeah I think it will start dropping off quicker in 2016, but follow a similar trend to the PS4.

24m are insanity... for sell this number's it must sell like the Wii in 2008, so 400k-600k all NPD (2m-3m during the Holiday) and 40k all week in Japan.

JUST NO.

20m isn't impossible, but as i said, Hart 50% increase for PS4.


Hey shipped nearly 20m in the first full year and it had half the line up of 2015 (At best).



Captain_Tom said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

24m are insanity... for sell this number's it must sell like the Wii in 2008, so 400k-600k all NPD (2m-3m during the Holiday) and 40k all week in Japan.

JUST NO.

20m isn't impossible, but as i said, Hart 50% increase for PS4.


Hey shipped nearly 20m in the first full year and it had half the line up of 2015 (At best).

2013+2014

2014 only was 14.3m

For sell 20m it must have 40% Boost (PS3 and PS2 30%) and 70% for 24m.

I See +20% this year, so 17.5m in 2015.



XB1 will perform better during the regular year but be down this holiday. It won't be much better, and overall it will probably only raise a little if any. Anyway, I highly doubt PS4 would've peaked yet considering that the price is the same as launch, there's really been no killer exclusives, no huge bundles, and even 3rd party games haven't gone all out yet. XB1 I could see peaking before, but there's a chance it hasn't



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I think the One and PS4 will both peak either next year or the year after, if 2016 is the peak year; it'll be only a slight bit better than 2015 (as in 5-7%, is my guess).

You're right that the market has changed but the Wii U, 3DS and Vita can't be used as the template for the One and PS4's sales curve due to a multitude of factors, I'll name the most important ones:

1: Handheld consoles have taken a massive hit from smart devices, I said in 2011 that dedicated handhelds would be all but gone within 3-5 years, if current trends continue; there really won't be much left by 2016.

2: The Wii U is an extremely flawed product from the beginning; it was designed at its very core to appeal to both casual and hardcore gamers but if failed utterly on both accounts and it basically has no demographic beyond Nintendo die-hard's and forum goers such as ourselves.

3: While Japan is going down as a major home console market; the West is either growing or staying flat in most regions so there is plenty of market left to keep the PS4 and One floating for a few years.

4: There really is not an iota of data to suggest that the One and PS4 have had their peak years in their first full year on the market (the PS4 wasn't even available in all major markets until late February last year), especially the One is set to have a decent yoy growth rate due its rather lackluster performance last year (the first half in particular) and there is no reason to think the PS4 will be down from 2014's number seeing the release schedule and a possible price cut on the horizon (Q4, most likely).

5: As a sort of combo of the above; the PS4 and One simply cannot be compared to neither the Vita nor the 3DS and Wii U, they have completely different demographics and outlooks and are soundly backed by the entire Western gaming industry, which cannot be said for the other three you mentioned. The 3DS has had some massive Japanese software hits but Nintendo have been grossly out of touch with the Western markets for a long time now and their 1st party fare has done little to help their handheld and their home console in these markets and there simply is no significant support in the Wii U's case. The Vita was quite simply DOA (and the proud owner of the most ironic name a console was ever given).



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Well the start of this year isn't super bright but I believe 2016 will be peak year for PS4/X1, then they will drop of quite fast I think. This year will most likely see healthy growth though.



Ryng_Tolu said:
Captain_Tom said:


Hey shipped nearly 20m in the first full year and it had half the line up of 2015 (At best).

2013+2014

2014 only was 14.3m

For sell 20m it must have 40% Boost (PS3 and PS2 30%) and 70% for 24m.

I See +20% this year, so 17.5m in 2015.

Yeah I mispoke there.  But still I think it is possible.



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The ps4s first entire sales year came close to ps2 who had 20 million units, the xbox one even outsold the xbox 360. and the wii u just lost all the casuals so its hard to compare. Consoles are doing fine



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