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binary solo said:
Of course The Order is not faring much better on Amazon compared to Titanfall. But on VGC pre-orders at the 4 week to launch mark it is at about 2/3 of Titanfall. So could we expect FW sales of The Order to come in at about 375K in the USA, and ~600K globally? Or is that overly ambitious?


The Order will reach at least 700k globally,



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

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There is no point in comparing spots with previous periods. The consoles are also charting lower, yet we don't know if they are selling less. Remember, #10 can mean one number or it can mean an entirely different number. It's all contextual.
Gift cards already did well last year but with a continuous incrase in userbase they'll keep selling more and more, thus occupying a good chunk of the top, and pushing other items down.



BraLoD said:
thedawghousev2 said:


yeah because usually when a game is marketed towards xbox, especially when it's an fps, it sells better in america on the xbox one.  however, they all eventually sell better on ps4 in america. for instance, battlefield 4 for some time was ahead of ps4 in america, ps4 has now surpassed it. call of duty ghosts xbox one is still ahead in america, advanced warfare xbox one is still ahead in america, but it's been outsold according to vgchartz and amazon the last few weeks. now evolve.


This is a really bad sign to XBOX though. They'll need to pay more and more to get anything exclusive if this keep going on, even just exclusive ad.
The great majority will want their games promoted with the PS4 so they can sell better.

This is why they really need to use that money for their own games and should have been doing that from the beginning.



Roronaa_chan said:
There is no point in comparing spots with previous periods. The consoles are also charting lower, yet we don't know if they are selling less. Remember, #10 can mean one number or it can mean an entirely different number. It's all contextual.
Gift cards already did well last year but with a continuous incrase in userbase they'll keep selling more and more, thus occupying a good chunk of the top, and pushing other items down.

That's why with guessing at numbers you need a numerical chart for comparison. Which is why I brought in the VGC pre-order chart. You can theoretically fairly reliably pick rough launch week numbers across time periods for similar games. If pre-orders of game A end up X% of game B, which is similar and launched a year ago, then launch week of game A should also be close to X% of game B. Very early generation things might be a bit different because there are fewer people available to walk in and buy a game unpre-ordered. But stil if the pre-order difference is large enough then that sort of thing shouldn;t have too much of an inflating effect for the later launched game.

Unless VGC is way off base with hardware, then we do have somewhat of a benchmark for numbers. We know where PS4 and Xb one are sitting in the best sellers, and we have an estimate for the actual sales of those consoles. So that gives us the ability to reasonably guess that position 18 on this week's Amazon chart represents lower absolute numbers than position 2 on the best seller chart for the first week of March 2014. Because it seems that PS4 sales for early 2015 are a fair bit lower than they were for early 2014, and PS4's position on the Amazon best seller chart is somewhat lower in 2015 compared to 2014. So to some extent the relative does seem to approximate the absolute.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

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Also I don't know a single person who owns an Xbox One and all the people who had a 360 bought a PS4.Another person I know just got a PS4 who was a big 360 gamer.



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SkyHold said:
st0pnsw0p said:

Evolve up quite a bit. PS4 version at 24, 2 places below The Order (22). XBOne version at 34.

This is just sad that MS paid for the exclusive promotion and bundle for game that won't sell much,but will sell better on the PS4 without a bundle.Why did they bother?


At least it is better than sales would be without exclusive marketing. It's been proven that exclusive marketing makes a difference.



Aerys said:
binary solo said:
Of course The Order is not faring much better on Amazon compared to Titanfall. But on VGC pre-orders at the 4 week to launch mark it is at about 2/3 of Titanfall. So could we expect FW sales of The Order to come in at about 375K in the USA, and ~600K globally? Or is that overly ambitious?


The Order will reach at least 700k globally,

That would be a pretty amazing result. Not sure I have that level of confidence.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

Dang, in the last few months the wind has really been taken out of the sails of some of these games. I know Halo 5 fell off of a lot of anticipated games lists after the Master Chief Collection fiasco; and now Evolve, talked about as one of the most anticipated games of 2014/2015 during last summer has become a punchline around the internet. Kinda crazy.



Protendo said:
SkyHold said:
st0pnsw0p said:

Evolve up quite a bit. PS4 version at 24, 2 places below The Order (22). XBOne version at 34.

This is just sad that MS paid for the exclusive promotion and bundle for game that won't sell much,but will sell better on the PS4 without a bundle.Why did they bother?


At least it is better than sales would be without exclusive marketing. It's been proven that exclusive marketing makes a difference.


Apparently not enough as the X1 is not making a profit.Exclusive games make a difference,not something that is on both consoles.



Nuvendil said:
Dang, in the last few months the wind has really been taken out of the sails of some of these games. I know Halo 5 fell off of a lot of anticipated games lists after the Master Chief Collection fiasco; and now Evolve, talked about as one of the most anticipated games of 2014/2015 during last summer has become a punchline around the internet. Kinda crazy.

I don't think Evolve really had any hype.Valve and PC fans were the only one hyping it until they saw the game play and played the beta.The concept never sounded good from the beginning.