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Gamergate - what is it and as a gamer should I care?

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As a gamer, should I care about gamergate?

Yes 34 24.11%
 
No 83 58.87%
 
Kinda 24 17.02%
 
Total:141
badgenome said:

It's long and complicated because of a lot of pointless internet drama, but the basics go something like this:

A woman named Zoe Quinn develops a game called Depression Quest and got a lot of buzz on various game sites such as Kotaku. Her ex-boyfriend then writes a Tumblr claiming that she cheated on him with five guys from the industry (one of whom worked for Kotaku) and tried to gaslight him about it, which would kind of contradict her claims that she cared deeply about mental illness since he has a history of issues.

This leads to a lot of people calling Quinn a whore and making unsubstantiated claims that she slept around expressly for the purpose of getting coverage for her game. This in turn, along with the negative reception to Anita Sarkeesian's Tropes vs. Women, causes several game bloggers to write posts about how gaming isn't just for straight white males anymore and to make the hyperbolic claim that, "Gamers are dead." At this point the whole thing erupts, with one side forming up to protest misogyny in gaming while the other side protests nepotism and corruption in game "journalism", meaning that both sides just talk past and harass each other and never shut the fuck up about it.

No, it's best not to care.

Wow, that's a near perfect summary. Your post should be shown everytime someonee raises gamergate again.



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No... Just no. So much nonsense or drama story that completely pointless & wasteful.



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Unless it can be compared to the Watergate Scandal, anything with the gate suffix probably deserves less attention than it gets. People being sexist online? Hype up the importance to Watergate levels by tacking on the gate suffix. Former President is exposed to have known about torture and general crimes against humanity in his personal off-shore gulag? WHO CARES? THERE'S A FOOTBALL WITH LESS AIR THAN THE LEAGUE STANDARD!

To me, the gate suffix is an issue of ethics in journalism in of itself.




Ranting aside, sexism/misogyny is bad and should be taken seriously, even in journalism and the gaming community.



badgenome said:

It's long and complicated because of a lot of pointless internet drama, but the basics go something like this:

A woman named Zoe Quinn develops a game called Depression Quest and got a lot of buzz on various game sites such as Kotaku. Her ex-boyfriend then writes a Tumblr claiming that she cheated on him with five guys from the industry (one of whom worked for Kotaku) and tried to gaslight him about it, which would kind of contradict her claims that she cared deeply about mental illness since he has a history of issues.

This leads to a lot of people calling Quinn a whore and making unsubstantiated claims that she slept around expressly for the purpose of getting coverage for her game. This in turn, along with the negative reception to Anita Sarkeesian's Tropes vs. Women, causes several game bloggers to write posts about how gaming isn't just for straight white males anymore and to make the hyperbolic claim that, "Gamers are dead." At this point the whole thing erupts, with one side forming up to protest misogyny in gaming while the other side protests nepotism and corruption in game "journalism", meaning that both sides just talk past and harass each other and never shut the fuck up about it.

No, it's best not to care.

Wow, that's it? Thanks for the explanation. Never understood why neogaf had such a big thread about it since it seems like a dumb issue. 



    

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badgenome said:

It's long and complicated because of a lot of pointless internet drama, but the basics go something like this:

A woman named Zoe Quinn develops a game called Depression Quest and got a lot of buzz on various game sites such as Kotaku. Her ex-boyfriend then writes a Tumblr claiming that she cheated on him with five guys from the industry (one of whom worked for Kotaku) and tried to gaslight him about it, which would kind of contradict her claims that she cared deeply about mental illness since he has a history of issues.

This leads to a lot of people calling Quinn a whore and making unsubstantiated claims that she slept around expressly for the purpose of getting coverage for her game. This in turn, along with the negative reception to Anita Sarkeesian's Tropes vs. Women, causes several game bloggers to write posts about how gaming isn't just for straight white males anymore and to make the hyperbolic claim that, "Gamers are dead." At this point the whole thing erupts, with one side forming up to protest misogyny in gaming while the other side protests nepotism and corruption in game "journalism", meaning that both sides just talk past and harass each other and never shut the fuck up about it.

No, it's best not to care.


Hah. Sounds like if people are worried about that, they need more difficult lives. Frankly I've never paid much attention to game reviews unless they mention technical problems. The reason is why should I care what some other guy thinks? If I like a game, I like it regardless of IGN etcs rating. 



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DeadNotSleeping said:
Unless it can be compared to the Watergate Scandal, anything with the gate suffix probably deserves less attention than it gets. People being sexist online? Hype up the importance to Watergate levels by tacking on the gate suffix. Former President is exposed to have known about torture and general crimes against humanity in his personal off-shore gulag? WHO CARES? THERE'S A FOOTBALL WITH LESS AIR THAN THE LEAGUE STANDARD!

To me, the gate suffix is an issue of ethics in journalism in of itself.




Ranting aside, sexism/misogyny is bad and should be taken seriously, even in journalism and the gaming community.


The truth right there. People forget Watergate was the name of the hotel, not water - gate. Throwing "gate" as a suffix onto something in my mind shows someone who doesn't actually understand what they are talking about.



I think there's some truth to it. However having said it,what its blown up to in its current state is not worth paying attention to. Both sides have went off the deep end of the insane ocean



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"Gaming journalism and women are bad" or something like that.



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The idea initially was to put gaming journalism into scrutiny, but somehow a small group of individuals decided to defend the woman who started this whole thing.

Feminists caught wind of it and as per usual derailed the issue at hand and turned it into another feminist agenda.



I put kinda. At first I didn't think it was such a big deal then a Tekken character was removed from the US copy because of complaints. That to me is a very dangerous precedent to start setting. I don't want things in my games removed because people are offended by it. If things like this start to become the norm who knows what kind of changes they will be able to force on devs. I swear if that get a character removed from SFV I'm going to be really pissed.