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Skullwaker said:

That's actually a very good point. I don't really have any facts to subtantiate my claim other than I see Sony and Microsoft going there before Nintendo, and they'll probably do it next gen. So Nintendo will probably be the gen after. I think they might do digital for handheld only and make physical copies for the console, or something along those lines. 

I don't want them to go digital only, but I see why it'll most likely happen eventually.


That's actually exactly what I think they'll be doing. I also think that they might also launch the home console with two SKU's; a digital only one with more memory, and a standard one with less memory, but a card slot.

I also have a theory about what they'll do with physical home console games and getting you to go digital with that and NFC, but that's for the Wii U successor prediction thread.



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Leadified said:
Rumble seems rather farfetched unless you meant something like using the same technology that creates vibrate for phones to simulate rumble for a handheld.


Lol, yeah. That's exactly what I mean, actually. And believe it or not, that was actually one of the predictions I feel is the least likely to happen, haha!



spemanig said:

That's actually exactly what I think they'll be doing. I also think that they might also launch the home console with two SKU's; a digital only one with more memory, and a standard one with less memory, but a card slot.

I also have a theory about what they'll do with physical home console games and getting you to go digital with that and NFC, but that's for the Wii U successor prediction thread.

Hope to see that soon!



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SJReiter said:
What you're describing sounds basically exactly the same as the 3DS, with just some minor improvements/changes (720p screen, digital only, etc.). In that regard, it makes sense that some of this would happen. My concern would be that this would not represent a true generational leap for Nintendo. Seems like this would just be another half-step (like the New 3DS is to the 3DS), and not a true full step in a new generation of handhelds.


Lol, what?

20. The new handheld will be approximately as powerful as the Wii U is. A little more or a little less.



JWeinCom said:
spemanig said:

I just want a place to look back to when the device is announced so I can see how close I am to being correct on my predictions. I'll probably be completely wrong. Feel free to bookmark this so you can assault me with just how wrong my predictions really are, now with sold proof! I'm not really going to explain much how I came to such conclusions, as I'm sure I've argued all these points and aggrivated enough of you in other threads. I'll definitely answer some questions here and there, however. I made edit some more in later as I remember them. Here we go!

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1. The handheld will share a name and branding with the home console "brother." Much like the "i" in iPod, iPad, and iPhone.

Maybe.  Makes sense.

2. The handheld will have the same OS as the home console "brother."

Again logical.  The 3DS and Wii U OS are already fairly similar.

3. The handheld will be cross compatible with most, if not, all games on the home console brother.

I don't see that happening.  Nintendo's success has come largely from realizing how to differentiated their console and portable offerings.  Not to mention that this will either gimp the console, or make the portable fairly pricey.

4. The handheld will have two screens.

Likely.

5. The botton screen will remain a touch screen.

I'd say the top too.

6. The top screen will remain a 3D screen. It will carry over the improvements made by the New 3DS.

Don't think so.  3D isn't the huge draw they expected.

7. The top screen will boast a 720p equivilant desplay. (I know there's a discrepency with calling the screen 720p because of the nature of the 3D screen)

Unlikely.  Nintendo likes using cheaper screen.

8. The handheld will retain the clamshell design of the 3DS.

Don't think so.  They need to make their newer system look sleaker and more modern.

9. The handheld will retain the new shoulder buttons added to the New 3DS in the same configuration, for a total of four shoulder buttons.

Probably.  Not too bold of a prediction.

10. The handheld will have an equivilant to two analog directional inputs. Wether those will remain the circle pad or an analog nub like the Vita is up in the air.

11. The right analog will not be a nub like the c-stick is on the 3DS. It will mirror the left analog input.

I don't see 10 or 11 happening.  The 3DS already is a complicated looking handheld.  Nintendo needs to make it look less intimidating and more accessible.

12. The next handheld will, quite obviously, keep the Dpad, as well as the ABXY buttons.

13. The analog inputs will be parellel to each other, and be positioned above the Dpad and ABXY buttons.

14. The handheld will launch with two form factors: A standard model and an XL model.

15. The handheld will feature a rumble pack.

16. The handheld will feature an NFC reader, just like the Wii U and New 3DS.

17. The next handheld will not have a card slot. It will be a digital only device.

Nah.  Backwards compatibility has been a key part of Nintendo's strategy.  Don't see them abandoning that.  Plus they have a younger often less tech savvy audience.  And gift givers etc.  Doesn't make much sense.

18. Collectable boxed NFC cards (or an NFC device of some ilk) will be sold at retail stores with a "download NFC function" for specific games, replacing retail copies of games. It works the same as a download code. One use only. You put the card/amiibo/whatever on the reader, and you get the digital game.

Not a bad idea in general, but will basically would have to take them to the eshop which carries the same problem as digital codes in general.  NFC isn't quick enough to actually download from the card, and I think cramming that much data in an amiibo would prove expensive.

19. The new handheld will come with either a 64GB SD/MiniSD card, or a 132GB SD/MiniSD card.

With the other things you're suggesting (console game compatibility, all digital) 64 GB would be way too small.  Even 132 (weird number) would be iffy.

20. The new handheld will be approximately as powerful as the Wii U is. A little more or a little less.

If this thing is coming out before like 2018, that would be expensive.  Nintendo typically does weak hardware.

21. The new handheld will have backwards compatability with the eshop. Almost every digital Wii U/3DS game will be downloadable on the new handheld.

I can see 3ds.  Not really for Wii U.

22. The unified platform will be the new "gimmick" and will be what the marketing for the handheld will focus on the most.

That'd be a poor gimmick that wouldn't attract much attention.  It would be disastrous.  Not a bad feature, but a terrible selling point.

23. If there is another physical hardware "gimmick," it will be the same across both the handheld and home console.

Not sure how that'd work. 

24. The new handheld will have some system that allows you to access online functions without the need for Wifi, for free. 4G, or an equivilant. (It will be integrated into the cost of individual games behind the scenes, much like buying books on the Kindle Fire allowed for a free 3G connection)

Possible, but I doubt it would enable gameplay.  More likely for buying stuff. 

Oh god. I'm ready to get ripped apart! If I'm going to eat crow because of this, then this thread is the bowl... Have at me!




I'm only adressing 18, because that's the only one I think you misunderstand. The game data won't be stored on the NFC device. The only thing on the device is an access "code" that gives you the right to download the game. If you've ever downloaded a game with a download code, this is the same thing.

EDIT: 19 was a typo. I meant 128GB.



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WhiteEaglePL said:
I hope it is not digital only...

Also......THANK GOODNESS for 2 screens. That's what I have been searching for in your list. It needs to be 2 screens.
However, it doesn't sound much like an improvement over the New 3DS though....

I think there will be new stuff, kind of like Streetpass is.

Furthermore......the "eShop" brand must stay. Nintendo can't keep changing brands all the time....


I think the eshop and Nintendo Network are staying as well. The next platform will just add on games to that, as opposed to Wiiware/DSiware.



vivster said:

One would think so.....................................................................


Yeah lol then I think it's safe to assume it'll be on the next handheld.



Skullwaker said:

Hope to see that soon!


It should come soon enough! I just want a record for later, lol.



spemanig said:

You can get a 64gb microSD card for only $30 right now. Without having a cart slot, they'll have to provide a more robust memory card packed in. The Wii U is different because it isn't a digital only system. A handheld with games with similar storage to Wii U games, I think they will be able to provide at least a 64GB memory card quite cheaply by 2016.

Based on Nintendo's track record, they'll probably go cheap with the external anyway. N3DS is launching in NA and EU next month and only includes a 4GB SD, which what, only costs like 60 cents to make? Also, we really can't know if they'll go full digital. It would be such a huge shift.



DrasticDracon said:

Based on Nintendo's track record, they'll probably go cheap with the external anyway. N3DS is launching in NA and EU next month and only includes a 4GB SD, which what, only costs like 60 cents to make? Also, we really can't know if they'll go full digital. It would be such a huge shift.


Nintendo's track record isn't relevant, since being digital wasn't mandatory. 4GB was acceptable because they could assume that you were only buying retail games, which mean that the memory card would only be used for save data and maybe some indie/VC games. It's an entirely different ball game when you're entire userbase can only play games digitally, and they don't have do factor a cart slot into manufacturing cost. (though I'm not sure how much the latter factors into that) They need to provide more space because everyone will need that space just to play their games at all.

I think people overestimate how big the leap actually is. We are already in an all digital world, and their major competitors, the mobile market, has already reaped the benefits of an all digital ecosystem.