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Dungeon crawling in a game just makes me happy, esp. when they are randomized :)



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IFireflyl said:

I don't know what to tell you, man. Interwebbed.

Wikipedia Hack-And-Slash


Just because a game has real time combat, doesn't mean it's a hack n slack game. I gave you 3 definitive examples of games that fall under the hack n slash genre. Bloodborne, and all of the Souls games, do not. That's like calling Zelda a hack n slash game. Darksiders, Heavenly Sword, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, Dante's Inferno. All Hack-n-slash. Bloodborne is not. It's a dungeon crawler with rpg elements. Not even a little bit hack n slash. 



spemanig said:
IFireflyl said:

I don't know what to tell you, man. Interwebbed.

Wikipedia Hack-And-Slash


Just because a game has real time combat, doesn't mean it's a hack n slack game. I gave you 3 definitive examples of games that fall under the hack n slash genre. Bloodborne, and all of the Souls games, do not. That's like calling Zelda a hack n slash game. Darksiders, Heavenly Sword, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, Dante's Inferno. All Hack-n-slash. Bloodborne is not. It's a dungeon crawler with rpg elements. Not even a little bit hack n slash. 

Unless you have a better definition of Hack-And-Slash I can't agree with you. According to the definition I found Bloodborne falls under the Hack-And-Slash gameplay.



 

spemanig said:
IFireflyl said:

I don't know what to tell you, man. Interwebbed.

Wikipedia Hack-And-Slash


Just because a game has real time combat, doesn't mean it's a hack n slack game. I gave you 3 definitive examples of games that fall under the hack n slash genre. Bloodborne, and all of the Souls games, do not. That's like calling Zelda a hack n slash game. Darksiders, Heavenly Sword, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, Dante's Inferno. All Hack-n-slash. Bloodborne is not. It's a dungeon crawler with rpg elements. Not even a little bit hack n slash. 

Pretty sure it's an action rpg with dungeon crawling.



IFireflyl said:

Unless you have a better definition of Hack-And-Slash I can't agree with you. According to the definition I found Bloodborne falls under the Hack-And-Slash gameplay.

Is any game with a sword a hack and slash then? Just wondering because a lot of RPGs I've played contain swords. Would Kingdom Hearts be a hack and slash too? If not, why?

Bloodborne is an ARPG.



 

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GribbleGrunger said:
IFireflyl said:

Unless you have a better definition of Hack-And-Slash I can't agree with you. According to the definition I found Bloodborne falls under the Hack-And-Slash gameplay.

Is any game with a sword a hack and slash then? Just wondering because a lot of RPGs I've played contain swords. Would Kingdom Hearts be a hack and slash too? If not, why?

I am not claiming to be an expert. I'm just saying the only definition that I found for hack-and-slash seems to fit this type of gameplay. This looks like a (better) variation of Diablo to me, and that was considered a hack-and-slash type game. This game also seems to have the Devil May Cry 4 feel to the battle system, and you defined that as a hack-and-slash game. I'm not sure why you're being so defensive. I'm not attacking you. I'm just saying the information I am finding would say this game would be considered a hack-and-slash game. If you don't agree, you don't agree.



 

IFireflyl said:

I am not claiming to be an expert. I'm just saying the only definition that I found for hack-and-slash seems to fit this type of gameplay. This looks like a (better) variation of Diablo to me, and that was considered a hack-and-slash type game. This game also seems to have the Devil May Cry 4 feel to the battle system, and you defined that as a hack-and-slash game. I'm not sure why you're being so defensive. I'm not attacking you. I'm just saying the information I am finding would say this game would be considered a hack-and-slash game. If you don't agree, you don't agree.

But it's not considered a hack and slash game. I really have no idea where you are getting that from. It's considered an RPG or an ARPG. Demon's Souls was an RPG, as was Dark Souls. You can't redefine the genre just because you replace a shield with a gun.



 

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GribbleGrunger said:
IFireflyl said:

I am not claiming to be an expert. I'm just saying the only definition that I found for hack-and-slash seems to fit this type of gameplay. This looks like a (better) variation of Diablo to me, and that was considered a hack-and-slash type game. This game also seems to have the Devil May Cry 4 feel to the battle system, and you defined that as a hack-and-slash game. I'm not sure why you're being so defensive. I'm not attacking you. I'm just saying the information I am finding would say this game would be considered a hack-and-slash game. If you don't agree, you don't agree.

But it's not considered a hack and slash game. I really have no idea where you are getting that from. It's considered an RPG or an ARPG. Demon's Souls was an RPG, as was Dark Souls. You can't redefine the genre just because you replace a shield with a gun.

Diablo is an "Action Role-Playing" and a "Hack-And-Slash" game. Devil May Cry is an "Action-Adventure" and a "Hack-And-Slash" game. Stop getting upset. It can be classified as more than one thing. I was not wrong. I am still not wrong. Move along.



 

IFireflyl said:

Diablo is an "Action Role-Playing" and a "Hack-And-Slash" game. Devil May Cry is an "Action-Adventure" and a "Hack-And-Slash" game. Stop getting upset. It can be classified as more than one thing. I was not wrong. I am still not wrong. Move along.

I'm not upset. Why would I be upset? I can tell by the way you end this post that you're not the sort of person that can admit they're wrong so I WILL 'move along'.



 

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GribbleGrunger said:
IFireflyl said:

Diablo is an "Action Role-Playing" and a "Hack-And-Slash" game. Devil May Cry is an "Action-Adventure" and a "Hack-And-Slash" game. Stop getting upset. It can be classified as more than one thing. I was not wrong. I am still not wrong. Move along.

I'm not upset. Why would I be upset? I can tell by the way you end this post that you're not the sort of person that can admit they're wrong so I WILL 'move along'.

I am not wrong. If you can prove to me how I am wrong I will concede. I have given you examples of definitions/games that show that I have a valid point. You have said that I am wrong because you want me to be wrong. The one example you gave (Devil May Cry) has a battle system that is almost exactly like Bloodborne, yet somehow Devil May Cry is a hack-and-slash game, but Bloodborne is not? Your logic doesn't add up, and I will not admit that I am wrong to "faulty" logic.