Previews of The Order have been negative if you've only paid attention to the negative ones. By that logic, I could throw out that Halo 5 has already recieved it's share of negative previews.

Also, I'll bite with The Order, but BloodBorne... If you're even remotely familiar with Demon's Souls and have seen what BloodBorne is offering, then you already know it's gonna be awesome. Plus, there has yet to be a single remotely negative preview for that one.

first of all, if the show 14 had been a million seller on any single platform, trust me, we would have heard about it. the article you link to is classic pr... it did better than the last one which did at best mediocre sales for what it is. the problem with mlb the show is it's a playstation game and not on any other platform. as for your last bit about 2k not being around... okay? and why do you think that is? maybe, just maybe, because there isn't the same demand for baseball games as there is for (american) football, football/soccer and basketball games. take two realized this and shelved the franchise.

your second point about the order... i believe we've had this conversation before. it is almost certainly going to be average at best, if not an outright disaster. sony hasn't had a single first party game (non-download-only, non-remake) this generation that has scored above an 80. infamous? 80, down 5 from a series high of 85. littlebigplanet 3? 79, down a whopping 16 from a series high. how about their new ip? driveclub, 71, 14 points lower than its competition last year (forza horizon 2, 86) and not even functional for months. how about that inventive 3d action game, knack? oh, 54. ouch.

anyway, the order 1886 looks set to join the "ouch" club, landing somewhere between driveclub and knack. it's an interactive movie which has consistently previewed like shit (as a previous poster remarked). anyway, it's coming in a few weeks, we'll know for sure then, won't we?

What an utterly worthless comment. We get it you don't like Playstation.

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-Mr Khan

Critics are pickier this generation than last generation. The other problem is that Metacritic has become a joke and is not a reliable way to tell someone if a certain game is good or not. Heck, it counts many scores from B.S. sites such as Quarter To Three. A lot of reviews who actually review don't have their scores counted. Plus, these "mediocre" scores did not stop millions of gamers from enjoying the games you've mentioned. But I digress, what is your point when you claim that The Order is going to be critically panned other than that you think it will happen?

The MLB 2K series was discontinued because it just plain sucked. 2K Sports (not Take Two) did not want to lose any more money on a failing series. It was ultimately a business decision. The MLB fanbase may be more niche than other sports fanbases, but it's there and it is growing. A 40% increase YOY is hardly insignificant.

That said, your comments haven't really contributed to the discussion at all. All I see is pure dismissal without valid explanation. Heck, you even got the developer wrong.

you playstation fans are a welcoming bunch. apparently if anyone else criticizes a single sony title for being boring, or not selling well, etc. etc., they are automatically designated as "worthless" and biased against sony, or whatever.

and then they say nintendo fans are hardcore. thanks.

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-Mr Khan

take two is the owner of 2k sports... and 2k games... they're subsidiaries.

as for the metacritic thing. i think we need to separate sales from whether a game is good. and we also need to separate hype on the part of the playstation fanbase and hype from people who just happen to like good games, irrespective of who the publisher or developer happens to be. there may be rabid anticipation in some quarters for the order 1886. you may share in that anticipation. the gaming press that has gone hands on with it has ranged between hating it, being confused by it, and saying it's a mediocre action game. if reviews no longer matter, why does sony trumpet them whenever their games get good reviews? because they create positive hype which in turn drives more sales. this game is going to do badly critically. people buy all sorts of stuff; they may well buy this too. that is no statement on its quality as a game.

The Playstation fanbase contains people who happen to like good games. Do not generalize.

As for the rest of your comment, I literally could not understand what you just said.

i didn't. i said people who like good games AND have no particular attachment to a company.

Knock it off with the off-topic stuff guys. Take a break and step away if you need to, but if you can't stop yourselves I'll have to start handing out moderations.

The problem is not that he is a hardcore fan, it's just that you have a hardcore hatred.

And it's sad to be such guy, blind, not really a gamer, just a guy who let other people tell what it's good to think " but metacritic said so , it can only be true" and too biased to enjoy things.