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Would you support cross-pollination of ideas and reputation?

Sounds Good 31 20.67%
 
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Keep your Xeno out of my FF 27 18.00%
 
No, they should branch ou... 25 16.67%
 
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Clyde32 on 26 January 2015
deskpro2k3 said:

you also asked how many come out each year.

The answer for the first part of your question is a long one based on several factors, but to cut it short I'll say there is 10 good MMORPGs, including some free2play ones. Those that went from subscription to free are usually the bad ones, but that is not always the case because sometimes being free2play can make it successful like Star Trek Online, and DCUO for example.

Do you want to know more? PM me.

This probably doesn't even matter, but I said this to begin with. "

Question, how many good MMOs come out on each year? 

It's not worth taking a discussion to a PM.



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deskpro2k3 on 26 January 2015
Clyde32 said:
deskpro2k3 said:

you also asked how many come out each year.

The answer for the first part of your question is a long one based on several factors, but to cut it short I'll say there is 10 good MMORPGs, including some free2play ones. Those that went from subscription to free are usually the bad ones, but that is not always the case because sometimes being free2play can make it successful like Star Trek Online, and DCUO for example.

Do you want to know more? PM me.

This probably doesn't even matter, but I said this to begin with. "

Question, how many good MMOs come out on each year? 

It's not worth taking a discussion to a PM.


What is "good" is subjective, and it is based on several things. It is not worth derailing this thread over. Take it to the PM.



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Clyde32 on 26 January 2015
deskpro2k3 said:
Clyde32 said:
deskpro2k3 said:

you also asked how many come out each year.

The answer for the first part of your question is a long one based on several factors, but to cut it short I'll say there is 10 good MMORPGs, including some free2play ones. Those that went from subscription to free are usually the bad ones, but that is not always the case because sometimes being free2play can make it successful like Star Trek Online, and DCUO for example.

Do you want to know more? PM me.

This probably doesn't even matter, but I said this to begin with. "

Question, how many good MMOs come out on each year? 

It's not worth taking a discussion to a PM.


What is "good" is subjective, and it is based on several things. It is not worth derailing this thread over. Take it to the PM.


Once again this doesn't matter, but you said I asked how many come out each year. Hence why I said that. But again it doesn't matter, and this is pointless. I don't care enough about this argument to take it to PM, if you want, you can confront bigtakilla about it. 



deskpro2k3 on 26 January 2015
Clyde32 said:


Once again this doesn't matter, but you said I asked how many come out each year. Hence why I said that. But again it doesn't matter, and this is pointless. I don't care enough about this argument to take it to PM, if you want, you can confront bigtakilla about it. 


You saw this as an argument? Here I thought you just want to know how many are "good". I just don't want to derail this thread explaining why I think they're good to you because what a good MMO is, is subjective.. So if you're interested in why I think some are good then you're still welcomed to PM me. It is your choice.



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Clyde32 on 26 January 2015
deskpro2k3 said:
Clyde32 said:


Once again this doesn't matter, but you said I asked how many come out each year. Hence why I said that. But again it doesn't matter, and this is pointless. I don't care enough about this argument to take it to PM, if you want, you can confront bigtakilla about it. 


You saw this as an argument? Here I thought you just want to know how many are "good". I just don't want to derail this thread explaining why I think they're good to you because what a good MMO is, is subjective.. So if you're interested in why I think some are good then you're still welcomed to PM me. It is your choice.


Yeah, sorry, I realized this wasn't an argument after I posted the comment. I'm in several arguments already, so that's what I think when I see someone reply to me.



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bigtakilla on 26 January 2015
outlawauron said:
bigtakilla said:
Anfebious said:
What could Xenoblade possibly teach Final Fantasy? It was FF 12 that taught Xenoblade in the first place.

Spoken like someone who truly never played the game. 

It has borrowed a lot of elements from games before. Why is this a bad thing?

It isn't a bad thing, but XII didn't teach Xenoblade. It's called facts.



bigtakilla on 26 January 2015
Clyde32 said:
outlawauron said:
bigtakilla said:
Anfebious said:
What could Xenoblade possibly teach Final Fantasy? It was FF 12 that taught Xenoblade in the first place.

Spoken like someone who truly never played the game. 

It has borrowed a lot of elements from games before. Why is this a bad thing?


I believe it was Fatslob's implied spite when saying it that's making him defensive.

It's more that XII didn't teach Xenoblade anything. I have nothing to be defensive over.



Wright on 26 January 2015
bigtakilla said:
Clyde32 said:


I believe it was Fatslob's implied spite when saying it that's making him defensive.

It's more that XII didn't teach Xenoblade anything. I have nothing to be defensive over.


There are some similarities between Final Fantasy XII and Xenoblade Chronicles in its core design. There's nothing wrong about taking inspiration, elements and ideas from previously released games into a new one.



bigtakilla on 27 January 2015
Wright said:
bigtakilla said:
Clyde32 said:


I believe it was Fatslob's implied spite when saying it that's making him defensive.

It's more that XII didn't teach Xenoblade anything. I have nothing to be defensive over.


There are some similarities between Final Fantasy XII and Xenoblade Chronicles in its core design. There's nothing wrong about taking inspiration, elements and ideas from previously released games into a new one.

One would have to jump to the conclusion that these loosely based similarities were put into Xenoblade Chronicles because of (or even inspired by) Final Fantasy XII. There is nothing to support that.

While I do agree there is nothing wrong with it. There was just nothing taken or inspired by XII, they are just way too different to come to the conclusion that XII was an inspiration in any way. 

If the game in question for inspiration was Phantasy Star Online I could completely see it. The art direction, gameplay, physical appearance (or more exactly the ability to change a characters armor/weapons/ect and therefore their appearance), ect. Xenoblade looks like a single player experience of Phantasy Star Online with an arguably better story (single player stories tend to be better) and no hub world and mission areas (basically Xenoblade is one giant world). 

Tell me if you can see any similarities in these.

 



Wright on 27 January 2015
bigtakilla said:
Wright said:


There are some similarities between Final Fantasy XII and Xenoblade Chronicles in its core design. There's nothing wrong about taking inspiration, elements and ideas from previously released games into a new one.

One would have to jump to the conclusion that these loosely based similarities were put into Xenoblade Chronicles because of (or even inspired by) Final Fantasy XII. There is nothing to support that.

 

Why did you show me two pics of Xenoblade Chronicles X? Obviously a sequel to an already established game is going to move the franchise toward the direction that the first game has, plus advances the director may feel necessary. I would gain nothing by showing you FF XIII pics, considering the massive difference from XII despite both having Final Fantasy on the name.

 

There's nothing definitive to support the presence of FF XII influence; but then again, the core similarities are there. For that, there's nothing to disprove that they didn't use FF XII as a reference either.