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Would you support cross-pollination of ideas and reputation?

Sounds Good 31 20.67%
 
Keep your FF out of my Xeno 65 43.33%
 
Keep your Xeno out of my FF 27 18.00%
 
No, they should branch ou... 25 16.67%
 
Total:148
deskpro2k3 on 25 January 2015
sc94597 said:
deskpro2k3 said:

86 is mediocre?

Look, it is still one of the best pay2play MMORPG to date. Anyone in the MMO community will tell you that. Now do yourself a favor and quit pulling at straws. Admit you're wrong because I can play this game with you all day. You're not doing yourself any favors if you continue.

Not that I want to get into this discussion, but I just want to say the 83% on the PC version is probably more accurate than the 86% on the PS4. It is only in that context that the game will be truly compared with other MMORPG's as the PS4 doesn't really have much in the genre and just being a succesful above-average MMORPG on the PS3/PS4 is enough to inflate its score. 

From what I've seen among MMORPG communites (which I frequently participate in) the game is considered above-average and good for people who want a solid PvE experience throughout the whole game (end-game still needs more content, according to these people.) People have mentioned that the PvP doesn't really reward people however and there really is no reason to do it other than for its own sake. The economy is also not as detailed or interactivve as other MMORPG's. Basially if you are looking for a great PvE experience then it is the game for you. If you're looking for a game where the main-focus is somethng else, then look elsewhere. 

I just want to say that unlike single player games, there isn't really an easy way to compare a single MMORPG with others, as they can target very different audiences and have different strengths.  All of the reviews I've read seem to take this into consideration and ONLY review the game on its general merits (graphics, leveling, controls) rather than give an accurate description of which types of players will like the game, but telling WHO will like the game is crucial for any MMORPG review. 

 

Consider this. The reviews you're reading is mostly just about the main storyline, but every 3 months FFXIV adds new content in patches thus continuing the storyline and endgame content. Other MMOs would call that expansions every other year. Why don't you play the 14 day free trial?



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Wright on 25 January 2015

Nothing. If I wanted Final Fantasy to be called Xenoblade, I would go play Xenoblade.



sc94597 on 25 January 2015
deskpro2k3 said:
sc94597 said:
deskpro2k3 said:

86 is mediocre?

Look, it is still one of the best pay2play MMORPG to date. Anyone in the MMO community will tell you that. Now do yourself a favor and quit pulling at straws. Admit you're wrong because I can play this game with you all day. You're not doing yourself any favors if you continue.

Not that I want to get into this discussion, but I just want to say the 83% on the PC version is probably more accurate than the 86% on the PS4. It is only in that context that the game will be truly compared with other MMORPG's as the PS4 doesn't really have much in the genre and just being a succesful above-average MMORPG on the PS3/PS4 is enough to inflate its score. 

From what I've seen among MMORPG communites (which I frequently participate in) the game is considered above-average and good for people who want a solid PvE experience throughout the whole game (end-game still needs more content, according to these people.) People have mentioned that the PvP doesn't really reward people however and there really is no reason to do it other than for its own sake. The economy is also not as detailed or interactivve as other MMORPG's. Basially if you are looking for a great PvE experience then it is the game for you. If you're looking for a game where the main-focus is somethng else, then look elsewhere. 

I just want to say that unlike single player games, there isn't really an easy way to compare a single MMORPG with others, as they can target very different audiences and have different strengths.  All of the reviews I've read seem to take this into consideration and ONLY review the game on its general merits (graphics, leveling, controls) rather than give an accurate description of which types of players will like the game, but telling WHO will like the game is crucial for any MMORPG review. 

 

Consider this. The reviews you're reading is mostly just about the main storyline, but every 3 months FFXIV adds new content in patches thus continuing the storyline and endgame content. Other MMOs would call that expansions every other year. Why don't you play the 14 day free trial?

No I'm talking about user feedback (like I said - the reviews give no good information) at this current time period. All MMORPG's get constant expansions and updates, that is assumed. I was tempted with the 14 day free trial, but didn't want to spend time on a character I would have to discard later on, and from my experience  - MMORPG's don't get better until you spend at least a good few weeks on your character anyway (then you have a good idea of what end-game will be like.) I know I'll probably like the game, just because I'm a FInal Fantasy fan and because I like the battle mechanics and what I read about the beautiful overworld and easy leveling system. I am also a big open world PvP fan and I know this game wasn't designed for that, but I like PvE enough that I could forego that (not a fan of battlegrounds, they are too "artifical" in my opinion.) Mostly I'm staying away though because I don't have much time for an MMORPG right now and if I play a subscription MMORPG I feel almost obligated to constantly play it (or cancel my subscription.) I was thinking of trying it out just to see how good the game looks and plays on my PC. 



bigtakilla on 25 January 2015
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
bigtakilla said:

Yeah, 86 is pretty mediocre of a score. And I'd readily admit I'm wrong... When I am.


After this comment is hard for people to take you seriously on vgchartz.

OT: final fantasy is final fantasy , x is x , i want ff 15 to be more like final fantasy i could care less about it copy stuff in xenoblade, the game they need to get features is from past final fantasy games, the first time they tried to implement stuff from other games we know how that worked.

Monolith Soft are the same people who worked on the past Final Fantasy games. So in theory it would be good to colaborate.

As for whether you take me serious or not, I just say it like it is. You can take it serious or not, doesn't matter to me. 



Clyde32 on 25 January 2015
deskpro2k3 said:
bigtakilla said:

Different genre of games can't be compared with the same rating. If so we are proclaming OOT is the greatest game ever (which it is for the adventure genre, but does not cross over to the greatest JRPG ever). 

And even by your logic, Xenoblade is still one of the highest rated JRPG's ever. Nothing can take that away from the game.

That said, how is XIV one of the greatest MMOs? It's not. Not by a long shot in sales, and not by a long shot in ratings. 


Dude, what kind of substance are you smoking? 

It won MMO of the year on multiple review sites, and on the biggest MMO site http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/12/19/massivelys-best-of-2013-awards/,

it is SE most successful FF to date financially, and with over 2.5mil active characters.

Meta scores: PS4 86, PC 83, PS3 76.


Question, how many good MMOs come out on each year? 



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outlawauron on 25 January 2015
bigtakilla said:
Anfebious said:
What could Xenoblade possibly teach Final Fantasy? It was FF 12 that taught Xenoblade in the first place.

Spoken like someone who truly never played the game. 

It has borrowed a lot of elements from games before. Why is this a bad thing?



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jonathanalis on 25 January 2015

i wonder if xenoblade had final fantasy in the name and was released also in a sony console.



Super_Boom on 25 January 2015

I've only played a few of the classic Final Fantasy games, but if we're speaking in general, I would love to see the exploration system from Xenoblade become standard in open-world RPGs. It was so satisfying getting bonus experience from finding a hidden cliff or cave while exploring, and I honestly enjoyed that method much more than having to grind constantly. It also gave me more motivation to explore the world outside of just filling in my map.



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Clyde32 on 25 January 2015
outlawauron said:
bigtakilla said:
Anfebious said:
What could Xenoblade possibly teach Final Fantasy? It was FF 12 that taught Xenoblade in the first place.

Spoken like someone who truly never played the game. 

It has borrowed a lot of elements from games before. Why is this a bad thing?


I believe it was Fatslob's implied spite when saying it that's making him defensive.



the_dengle on 25 January 2015

Every Xeno & FF thread. "Maybe people will be having an interesting discussion in this thread" --> "Oh that's right that's why I avoid these threads like the plague."