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Is PS3 a failure?

Yes! 146 23.74%
 
No! 422 68.62%
 
Maybe baby 27 4.39%
 
Gimme numbers! Arrgh omnomnom! 19 3.09%
 
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BraLoD said:
Depends.
Not as successful as the PS2, but made a great name for itselft after a initial bad start and was a success in getting consumers back and paving the way to the PS4 being what it's now.

Exactly my thoughts.



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The ps3 is a failure because sony screwed up the console since it launched not only because the sales but because they were so arrogant to sell the console at a huge price which at the same time they were incurring in huge losses due to very high manufacturing cost. I'm sure they would have been the winner of last generation if it wasn't for sony arrogant decisions, that being said, ps3 did what none of the console before it and current would have done if they were priced at 599 since it launched and that's selling more than 80m, any other console would have failed.



For Sony it may very well be a failure since it might not have made them profits or not as much profits as they wanted, but it indeed ended up performing better than what people originally thought and it ended up in second place (even if barely), but once you consider that it came out a year after the 360 at a 600 dollar price tag, and with the tipical campaign made by fanboys of "the PS3 has no games!", then getting that second place is quite the achivement, (especially if you consider that it was never cheaper than the 360).

but really what mostly interest me is if it was a succes for the PS3 gamers like myself, and in that regard it was a huge succes, so much Western/Japanese exclusives, that i still havent played all the already released exclusive games, and i am still excited for the upcoming PS3 exclusives of 2015 like Tales of Zestiria.



I would say that ultimately success or failure is best and most objectively judged by how much money was made. So, the PS3 was a failure.



Calling it a failure because of the losses it made the first few years doesn't make much sense to me. Sony employed a loss leading strategy from the very beginning. They were selling the PS3 at a $200 loss at launch so they knew it would be years before the console managed to turn a profit. At the end of the day the PS3 sold over 80m consoles. The 6th most successful console in history, 4th if you remove handhelds. Only the Wii and Sony's other two home consoles had managed to surpass it. It also established a solid foundation and active userbase to quickly jump into the next generation leading them to create the fastest selling console in history.

Was the PS3 everything Sony hoped for? Of course not. But it was in no way a failure.



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Fusioncode said:
Calling it a failure because of the losses it made the first few years doesn't make much sense to me. Sony employed a loss leading strategy from the very beginning. They were selling the PS3 at a $200 loss at launch so they knew it would be years before the console managed to turn a profit. At the end of the day the PS3 sold over 80m consoles. The 6th most successful console in history, 4th if you remove handhelds. Only the Wii and Sony's other two home consoles had managed to surpass it. It also established a solid foundation and active userbase to quickly jump into the next generation leading them to create the fastest selling console in history.

Was the PS3 everything Sony hoped for? Of course not. But it was in no way a failure.


Sony lost money overall on console sales, so how do big console sales make it a success? Considering Microsoft lost money every year in the Xbox division, I highly doubt Sony made any money off of the PS3 (which in my book makes it a failure). 



I love when people bring up market share as a reason the PS3 is a failure. The PS2 went against 3 under performers in the Dreamcast, Gamecube and Xbox. The PS3 went against the Wii, the great fad console, and the Xbox 360 another highly successful console. PS2 sold 157.68 mil. If you replaced PS3s numbers with the PS2 it would look like this.

PS: 157.68
Wii: 100.9
Xbox: 84.4

Which would leave PS with only 45% of the market. In other words, in order to replicate the PS2s market share the PS3 would have had to sell over 500 million consoles.

That said I believe the PS3 still lost money for Sony so it certainly was not a success.



DanneSandin said:
*Sound Of Rain said:
Success in terms of sales? Yes
Success in terms of game sales? Yes
Success in quality which helps the PS4 today? Yes
Success in making Sony money? No

Success in terms of sales? Really? It barely made second place and it lost a lot of sales and market share PS2 had gained.

It made second place despite all the negativity,  bad press and year late launch,  so yes it's a success. 

Additionally the solid support in its later years while support for the wii had been dropped like a hot potato,  and support for the x360 became asthmatic,  aided the strong launch and early success of the ps4.

 

So when will you make a "Is the WiiU a failure?"  click bait thread?  Or is that one too obvious to get away with. 



Yes and no is the only possible answer. It failed in a lot of things and succeeded in a lot of things.

From a gaming community perspective it was a great success. It brought us some fantastic games and it is the 4th best selling console of all time, and in many countries it is the 2nd best selling only behind PS2.

From a corporate perspective it failed to turn a profit, and it failed to capitalise on the amazing success of the PS2. Though it did manage maintain a decent degree of popularity of the PS brand. And it did help to win the HDDVD/Bluray format war. While Bluray isn't as dominant as DVD became, because of the rise of digital distribution, it's still an important medium, and losing the format war to HDDVD would have been a failure of a different sort for Sony. Still the cost/benefit of that winning the format war is probably debatable.

Ultimately, though, PS3 was successful enough despite many failings. In later years it helped keep Sony alive, it ensured there would be an 8th generation Playstation console, and it carried the best momentum of the 7th generation into the 8th generation (which I predicted back in 2009).



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Ps3 introduced psn, ps3 pushed Sony to develop first party studios on par or better than any other publisher in the game industry, ps3 pushed Sony to be innovative, ps3 in those aspects was a success, but ps3 also tarnished the PlayStation brand(but later Sony's first party studios brought it back), and wiped out the majority of money made during the ps2 era, so it was also a failure in those aspects



 

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