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DerNebel said:
You should elaborate on that prediction a little, what would make sales explode like that?


I did now :) 



Ltd predictions by the time 9th Gen comes out

Ps4:110million

Xbox one :75 million( was 65) 

Wii u: 20 milliion

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Protendo said:
teigaga said:
DerNebel said:
You should elaborate on that prediction a little, what would make sales explode like that?

I personally would say 25m is the absolute max, 20m is certain in my opinion though

Reason being

New pricepoint: XBox only spent Nov and December at its 349 pricepoint, the majority of the year it was either more expensive or equal to PS4. 


Xbox One was $320 + $50 gift card making it $270 with 3 free games.  Why do we keep forgetting that?

kinisking said:

And? Ps4 won't stop Xbox one from selling better than the year before. Ps4 sold 14 mil it's fast year at 400 yet you underestimate the Xbox one So much that you don't think it can do the same with a better exclusive line up than ps4s first year and a much cheaper price. 

A PS4 price drop would do just that.

Since september? Either way, face value price cut >>> Convoluted deals.

The same convoluted deals that will probably appear throughout this year too



Crazy 21-22 millions



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

Protendo said:
teigaga said:
DerNebel said:
You should elaborate on that prediction a little, what would make sales explode like that?

I personally would say 25m is the absolute max, 20m is certain in my opinion though

Reason being

New pricepoint: XBox only spent Nov and December at its 349 pricepoint, the majority of the year it was either more expensive or equal to PS4. 


Xbox One was $320 + $50 gift card making it $270 with 3 free games.  Why do we keep forgetting that?

kinisking said:

And? Ps4 won't stop Xbox one from selling better than the year before. Ps4 sold 14 mil it's fast year at 400 yet you underestimate the Xbox one So much that you don't think it can do the same with a better exclusive line up than ps4s first year and a much cheaper price. 

A PS4 price drop would do just that.

That was on black Friday. You act like it was every day and world wide. Why do you forget that. Also ps4 didn't have any deals? 



Ltd predictions by the time 9th Gen comes out

Ps4:110million

Xbox one :75 million( was 65) 

Wii u: 20 milliion

DerNebel said:
kinisking said:
Teeqoz said:
You think it'll double it's 2014 numbers?


With halo 5,350 in us all year with a possibility of 300at the end of the year, Gears collection (most likely), and all the other exclusives why not? The Xbox one was 500 for like half of the year last year. 

The $350 is according to MS only for a limited time as well.

Also you should really explain how you think that whole thing is going to happen, where is it supposed to sell all these units? Cause outside the US and the UK the sales of the system have been miserable, do you expect sales to pick in those regions or do you expect most of 14 million to come from the US and UK? How is this going to work?

Look at op. Plus we all know it's not a limiter time lol



Ltd predictions by the time 9th Gen comes out

Ps4:110million

Xbox one :75 million( was 65) 

Wii u: 20 milliion

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It's not impossible, but highly unlike to happen. It would need to double 2014, but let's not rule it out just yet.



Bet with Teeqoz for 2 weeks of avatar and sig control that Super Mario Odyssey would ship more than 7m on its first 2 months. The game shipped 9.07m, so I won


That was on black Friday. You act like it was every day and world wide. Why do you forget that. Also ps4 didn't have any deals? 


The $349 + 50 GC and multiple games was all month at Target.  So $299 plus multiple games, if that makes you feel better.



teigaga said:
DerNebel said:
You should elaborate on that prediction a little, what would make sales explode like that?

I personally would say 25m is the absolute max, 20m is certain in my opinion though

Reason being

New pricepoint: XBox only spent Nov and December at its 349 pricepoint, the majority of the year it was either more expensive or equal to PS4. We all saw how its sales exploded in November, obviously it was partially down to the big games (Halo MCC, COD, GTA)  and Holiday bump, but we saw its sales jump proportionally bigger then the PS4's due to the new pricepoint. On that basis alone its reasonable to expect things to be up YOY, throughout the majority of 2015 it will cheaper then the competition something Xbox was not last year.

Xbox is out in all regions, unlike last year where it didn't launch everywhere till Q3. A small but notable add to its sales being up YOY.

Big holiday momentum. We all saw how much big microsoft numbers were in Q4 and no one predicted them to be that high, it sold 6m in the second half of 2014.That is going to have a trigger effect on how it does during the beginning of this year, we all know that people don't just buy systems in a isolate manner they get what they're friends have. With the gains xbox had recently, it should snowball into better sales going forward, the system now has a positive buzz surrounding and is no longer the flop system with DRM.forced kinect etc. Of course with  COD/GTA/Halo/AC Unity/ Dragon Age/Far Cry all continuing to push hardware sales for the next month or so, I think its sales will be strong in Q1. 

Superior software line up over 2014. Last year Xbox Q1/Q2 had Theif (cross gen), tomb raider (a year old remaster), titanfall (cross gen) and Watch dogs (cross gen)at the very end of May. Compare that to this years line up consisting mostly of next gen exclusives: Dying Light, Evolve, Final Fantasy Type 0, Witcher 3, Batman Arkham Knight, Dead Island 2 and cross gen titles like Battlefield and Mortal Combat. In what world would sales not be up significantly at comparing the line ups. I'm assuming Evolve and Witcher 3 are big hits which isn't garunteed but if you want to keep up with gaming in the next few months you're gonna need either a PC, PS4 or Xbox One somethin that wasn't the case last year. 

Superior fall line up. Quantum break, Halo 5, Tomb Raider, Forz 6, The Division, StarWars Battlefront 3, Hitman (all next gen exclusives- probably plenty more yet to be announced, maybe even COD? unlikely but possible). I expect Microsoft to be just as competetive as they were this year and hit the 299 pricepoint during the holiday. 

I think across both PS4/X1 sales will explode, the most simple reason being developers have finally moved on from last gen so gamers will be forced to aswell.

You gave a good enough explanation for why the system should be up YoY, which I'd say nobody really tried to deny, but 25 million still seems to very much be stretching the realms of possibility. That would be an utterly insane YoY increase and kinda need Sony to just sit there and do nothing all year, which I find highly unlikely.



I thinking can manage 10 million this year, not 14 million. 100% YoY doesn't really happen. If there are a lot of people thinking an xb one can be had for $299 at the end of the year then a lot of people will wait. This could have the effect of leaving sales flat through most of the year. Not like to get to the low point the $500 sku reached, but not as high as might be expected.



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Protendo said:

That was on black Friday. You act like it was every day and world wide. Why do you forget that. Also ps4 didn't have any deals? 


The $349 + 50 GC and multiple games was all month at Target.  So $299 plus multiple games, if that makes you feel better.

They're were tons of deals for ps4 also. Obviously not as good. And multiple games like black flag( a lot of people already played) and (unity a broken mess). So enticing :) 



Ltd predictions by the time 9th Gen comes out

Ps4:110million

Xbox one :75 million( was 65) 

Wii u: 20 milliion