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Who will win the first GOP debate?

Jeb Bush 6 9.68%
 
Scott Walker 1 1.61%
 
Donald Trump 28 45.16%
 
Marco Rubio 6 9.68%
 
Rand Paul 7 11.29%
 
Ted Cruz 4 6.45%
 
Chris Christie 1 1.61%
 
Ben Carson 6 9.68%
 
Mike Huckabee 3 4.84%
 
Rick Perry 0 0%
 
Total:62

Would definitely vote for Rand Paul if I was American.



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sc94597 said:
Boutros said:
BraveNewWorld said:
Boutros said:
I don't know how you can vote Republican nowadays. They really come off as the bad guys honestly lol

That's because the Liberal media protrays them that way. They act exactly as Fox News does, but don't get ripped for it.

No one made up that they are opposed to abortion, same-sex marriage, gun control laws, etc....

Those things only matter so much but still.

The bolded is not a bad thing in the eyes of many Americans. In fact gun control laws have become less popular with newer generations. For example, in the 1950's the majority of Americans supported hand-gun bans, today only a very small minority (like 20%) support handgun bans. Not all Republicans oppose state-recognized same-sex marriage, and many are forfeiting that issue. Abortion is a different story, but that is a heated and controversial topic. Abortions have become stigmatized culturally, and even with outright bans fewer and fewer doctors are doing them. It seems to me that these perspectives are quite consistent with the beliefs of Americans. For that matter, Republicans are properly representing their constinuents. 

As a whole, Americans support sane gun control. Bans are indeed unpopular, but few outside of the militia crowd are opposed to wait periods and appropriate mental health and crime restrictions as well as closing the gun show loophole. Smart guns are also a popular idea held hostage by the militiamen.

There's blessedly less demand for abortion because more people are practicing safe sex nowadays.

The whole SSM thing has been forfeited in favor of all of this "freedom to discriminate" malarkey, however. They're just switching tactics.



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NobleTeam360 said:
Boutros said:
sc94597 said:

The bolded is not a bad thing in the eyes of many Americans. In fact gun control laws have become less popular with newer generations. For example, in the 1950's the majority of Americans supported hand-gun bans, today only a very small minority (like 20%) support handgun bans. Not all Republicans oppose state-recognized same-sex marriage, and many are forfeiting that issue. Abortion is a different story, but that is a heated and controversial topic. Abortions have become stigmatized culturally, and even with outright bans fewer and fewer doctors are doing them. It seems to me that these perspectives are quite consistent with the beliefs of Americans. For that matter, Republicans are properly representing their constinuents. 

Gun control laws are more subjective and arguable but I don't understand why we're still having a debate on abortions in 2015.

Maybe because most people don't believe in killing a baby. 

So you're against every cases of abortions?



Boutros said:
sc94597 said:

The bolded is not a bad thing in the eyes of many Americans. In fact gun control laws have become less popular with newer generations. For example, in the 1950's the majority of Americans supported hand-gun bans, today only a very small minority (like 20%) support handgun bans. Not all Republicans oppose state-recognized same-sex marriage, and many are forfeiting that issue. Abortion is a different story, but that is a heated and controversial topic. Abortions have become stigmatized culturally, and even with outright bans fewer and fewer doctors are doing them. It seems to me that these perspectives are quite consistent with the beliefs of Americans. For that matter, Republicans are properly representing their constinuents. 

Gun control laws are more subjective and arguable but I don't understand why we're still having a debate on abortions in 2015.

 The U.S is still pretty unrestricted when it comes to abortions. 



NobleTeam360 said:
Boutros said:
sc94597 said:

The bolded is not a bad thing in the eyes of many Americans. In fact gun control laws have become less popular with newer generations. For example, in the 1950's the majority of Americans supported hand-gun bans, today only a very small minority (like 20%) support handgun bans. Not all Republicans oppose state-recognized same-sex marriage, and many are forfeiting that issue. Abortion is a different story, but that is a heated and controversial topic. Abortions have become stigmatized culturally, and even with outright bans fewer and fewer doctors are doing them. It seems to me that these perspectives are quite consistent with the beliefs of Americans. For that matter, Republicans are properly representing their constinuents. 

Gun control laws are more subjective and arguable but I don't understand why we're still having a debate on abortions in 2015.

Maybe because most people don't believe in killing a baby. 

Nope, majority of voters believe that it is at least justifiable in some circumstances. Even fewer Republicans than you might think will say that abortion should be totally banned in all circumstances. The iffy question is, as always, where the line is.

Separate post, but gun ownership is also at a historical low in this country, as a proportion of the population. We have more guns owned than ever, but a smaller portion of the population than ever before owning them. So it's the enthusiasts skewing the numbers there to make it look like we're more gun-happy than we are.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

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Boutros said:
NobleTeam360 said:
Boutros said:
sc94597 said:

The bolded is not a bad thing in the eyes of many Americans. In fact gun control laws have become less popular with newer generations. For example, in the 1950's the majority of Americans supported hand-gun bans, today only a very small minority (like 20%) support handgun bans. Not all Republicans oppose state-recognized same-sex marriage, and many are forfeiting that issue. Abortion is a different story, but that is a heated and controversial topic. Abortions have become stigmatized culturally, and even with outright bans fewer and fewer doctors are doing them. It seems to me that these perspectives are quite consistent with the beliefs of Americans. For that matter, Republicans are properly representing their constinuents. 

Gun control laws are more subjective and arguable but I don't understand why we're still having a debate on abortions in 2015.

Maybe because most people don't believe in killing a baby. 

So you're against every cases of abortions?

No, if it's a threat to the mothers life or rape etc.... then it's appropriate. 



Mr Khan said:
NobleTeam360 said:
Boutros said:
sc94597 said:

The bolded is not a bad thing in the eyes of many Americans. In fact gun control laws have become less popular with newer generations. For example, in the 1950's the majority of Americans supported hand-gun bans, today only a very small minority (like 20%) support handgun bans. Not all Republicans oppose state-recognized same-sex marriage, and many are forfeiting that issue. Abortion is a different story, but that is a heated and controversial topic. Abortions have become stigmatized culturally, and even with outright bans fewer and fewer doctors are doing them. It seems to me that these perspectives are quite consistent with the beliefs of Americans. For that matter, Republicans are properly representing their constinuents. 

Gun control laws are more subjective and arguable but I don't understand why we're still having a debate on abortions in 2015.

Maybe because most people don't believe in killing a baby. 

Nope, majority of voters believe that it is at least justifiable in some circumstances. Even fewer Republicans than you might think will say that abortion should be totally banned in all circumstances. The iffy question is, as always, where the line is.

Separate post, but gun ownership is also at a historical low in this country, as a proportion of the population. We have more guns owned than ever, but a smaller portion of the population than ever before owning them. So it's the enthusiasts skewing the numbers there to make it look like we're more gun-happy than we are.

That's fine, I don't think abortion should be banned entirely. 



I'm praying Rand Paul gets elected.

No more democrats, America doesn't deserve this.



Mr Khan said:

As a whole, Americans support sane gun control. Bans are indeed unpopular, but few outside of the militia crowd are opposed to wait periods and appropriate mental health and crime restrictions as well as closing the gun show loophole. Smart guns are also a popular idea held hostage by the militiamen.

There's blessedly less demand for abortion because more people are practicing safe sex nowadays.

The whole SSM thing has been forfeited in favor of all of this "freedom to discriminate" malarkey, however. They're just switching tactics.

The trends seem to be similar for both extreme gun control and controls in general. The last poll I've seen on the background checks was right after a year of some bad shootings (Aurora, Sandy Hook, etc.) 

http://www.gallup.com/poll/179045/less-half-americans-support-stricter-gun-laws.aspx



NobleTeam360 said:
Boutros said:
BraveNewWorld said:
Boutros said:
I don't know how you can vote Republican nowadays. They really come off as the bad guys honestly lol

That's because the Liberal media protrays them that way. They act exactly as Fox News does, but don't get ripped for it.

No one made up that they are opposed to abortion, same-sex marriage, gun control laws, etc....

Those things only matter so much but still.

Is being pro life, and wanting to be able to defend yourself bad? 

You're reducing things to overly simple terms. Again, the choice is not the switch between "no abortion ever," and "dead babies always." Abortion can be a tool necessary to preserving the life of the mother, for one, and is sometimes sadly necessary for an unwanted child to not be brought into this world. Now, we could have plenty of space for unwanted children, or make it so that we have fewer unwanted pregnancies altogether, but Republicans like to defund everything that doesn't involve killing brown people abroad, so they make it harder for women to want to bring children into this world. Yet at the same time they make it easier for children to be inadvertantly born, and then punish them and the parents for doing so. Sounds like a bad dystopian novel or something.

Similarly, self-defense does not mean we need to fill the streets with open-carried AR-15s with plus-size ammo clips, now do we?



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.