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jetforcejiminy said:
Seece said:
OfficerRaichu15 said:

well then :P
guess I am gladly wrong

(they are gonna lose lots of money though with this)

Who actually cares? They make 5 billion dollars per quarter.

well, presumably microsoft's shareholders care. people have been vocal about pressuring nadella to drop or spin off the xbox operation altogether... in fact, there were business articles not too long after he took over speculating that that's precisely what he would do. they've cut off products before (zune), and they would have cut off surface if the surface 3 hadn't been a moderate success. xbox one, financially, is not a success for them by any means.

A few outspoken people that bark loud. MS and Nadella have more than enough positives to show investors why it's worth it. Which is exactly why 12 years on it's still going, that division is losing less and less money as time has gone on.



 

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OfficerRaichu15 said:

well according to this

http://venturebeat.com/2013/11/29/the-deanbeat-the-xbox-one-cost-471-to-make-the-ps4-costs-381-and-why-this-matters-in-the-long-run/

it costed $471 with the kinect

now since it doesnt have it it cost about $371(I think the kiect is about $100 back then maybe a couple dollars more than that but around that range)

so I believe they are losing $21 on it(not as much as I thought which is good but they are still losing money by doing this)

That was at release though. Surely some of the components the Xbox One uses have dropped in price since then, the blu-ray drive maybe, or the hard drive. But even if they are losing some on the console they surely make it back on accessory sales, the Xbox One controller costs $15 to manufacture, yet sells for $50+. The chat headsets cost less than $10 manufacture yet sell for $25. Plus they make money from game sales and live subs.



TiagoCosta said:

OfficerRaichu15 said:

well according to this

http://venturebeat.com/2013/11/29/the-deanbeat-the-xbox-one-cost-471-to-make-the-ps4-costs-381-and-why-this-matters-in-the-long-run/

it costed $471 with the kinect

now since it doesnt have it it cost about $371(I think the kiect is about $100 back then maybe a couple dollars more than that but around that range)

so I believe they are losing $21 on it(not as much as I thought which is good but they are still losing money by doing this)

Microsoft sells 1 game and recovers that much.

not going into accessories, profit heaven.

well then I guess that is true

but Ill justw ait until the quarterly results



Bets:

(Won)Bet with TechoHobbit: He(Techno) says 10 million by January 1,2014 I say 9 million by then. Winner gets 2 weeks of sig control.

(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

Raichu's First Series:

First RPG?

First Fighter?

First Racer?

First Shooter?

First MMO?

First Horror?

Official Ni No Kuni Fanboy:

Familiars Captured:37

Game Beaten: 2 times almost

Times I got teary during some scenes: 3

Microsoft is pulling a Sega. They're losing money on the Xbox from selling it for less than what it costs to make. Just what Sega did with Dreamcast.

MS should just pull out if the console market next generation. They're losing money at it.



Seece said:
jetforcejiminy said:
Seece said:
OfficerRaichu15 said:

well then :P
guess I am gladly wrong

(they are gonna lose lots of money though with this)

Who actually cares? They make 5 billion dollars per quarter.

well, presumably microsoft's shareholders care. people have been vocal about pressuring nadella to drop or spin off the xbox operation altogether... in fact, there were business articles not too long after he took over speculating that that's precisely what he would do. they've cut off products before (zune), and they would have cut off surface if the surface 3 hadn't been a moderate success. xbox one, financially, is not a success for them by any means.

A few outspoken people that bark loud. MS and Nadella have more than enough positives to show investors why it's worth it. Which is exactly why 12 years on it's still going, that division is losing less and less money as time has gone on.

well to tell you the truth it was helping that the 360 was kicking ps3's ass for most of 7th gen :P

but it is good xbox is still going :)



Bets:

(Won)Bet with TechoHobbit: He(Techno) says 10 million by January 1,2014 I say 9 million by then. Winner gets 2 weeks of sig control.

(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

Raichu's First Series:

First RPG?

First Fighter?

First Racer?

First Shooter?

First MMO?

First Horror?

Official Ni No Kuni Fanboy:

Familiars Captured:37

Game Beaten: 2 times almost

Times I got teary during some scenes: 3

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riderz13371 said:
poklane said:
Voltaris said:
XB1 $299 Holiday 2015 confirmed

With probably at least 1 new AAA game.

Hey that's good news for me in 2015 =P

I could imagine systems just flying of the shelf at that price bundled with HALO 5 but since they didn't even bundle MCC this holiday, I reckon it will be Tomb Raider XB! bundle $299 as their holiday bundle



If it weren't for the New 3DS I'd be tempted to buy an Xbox One now (I thought about getting one over the holidays a lot, but other things just kept getting in my way).



Bets:

1. If the Wii U sells closer to 10 million LTD by 1/3/2015 I win. If it sells closer to 9.5 million LTD by 1/3/2015 OfficerRaichu15 wins (winner gets 2 weeks of avatar control)--Lost.

jlmurph2 said:
DerNebel said:
jlmurph2 said:

Selling the most software out of all 8th gen consoles helps profit too.

Yeah let's not pat ourselves too much on the back for that, there are mote than enough games included in that number that they didn't make anything on.


Like what?

Like every game they threw into one of their bundles for free.



OfficerRaichu15 said:
Seece said:

A few outspoken people that bark loud. MS and Nadella have more than enough positives to show investors why it's worth it. Which is exactly why 12 years on it's still going, that division is losing less and less money as time has gone on.

well to tell you the truth it was helping that the 360 was kicking ps3's ass for most of 7th gen :P

but it is good xbox is still going :)

360 made most of its money when it was being beat by PS3 WW.



 

DerNebel said:
jlmurph2 said:
DerNebel said:

Yeah let's not pat ourselves too much on the back for that, there are mote than enough games included in that number that they didn't make anything on.


Like what?

Like every game they threw into one of their bundles for free.

Except the quote is referring to NPD. Which doesn't count bundles.