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Cobretti2 on 16 January 2015
Hynad said:


They already did the second analog lol.



 

 

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manuel on 16 January 2015
hsrob said:
the_dengle said:

I agree. I knew they were already doing this in Japan and Europe and I regret not being mad about it on principal before it became my problem.

It's still not my problem since I already own a 3DS and thus a charger. But the problem is now in my region and it's a stupid choice on Nintendo's part.

To those defending Nintendo's rhetoric, here is proof positive that the savings on the absent charger are being passed on to Nintendo, not to the customer.

3DS XL launch price in Japan (no charger): ¥18,800
New 3DS XL launch price in Japan (no charger): ¥18,800
3DS XL launch price in UK (no charger): £179.99
New 3DS XL launch price in UK (no charger): £179.99
3DS XL launch price in US (with charger): $199.99
New 3DS XL launch price in US (no charger): $199.99

See the problem here? In Japan and in the UK, the New XL was valued at the same price as the original XL. None of those models included a charger, so we can conclude that the value of the New XL in 2014 is equal to the value of the standard XL in 2012. In America as well, the New XL is valued at the same price as the original XL was, but there is something missing from the box. This means that, if Nintendo is to be believed, the New model is considered more valuable in 2014 than the XL was in 2012. But this is clearly not the case anywhere else in the world.

In other words, Nintendo is lying through their teeth. No savings are being passed on to the customer in America.

While this doesn't surprise me in the least, good on you for taking the time to do the comparison. 

If memory serves right the Japanese prices are off by a few Yen, but the point stands nevertheless.



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Cleary397 on 16 January 2015
the_dengle said:

I agree. I knew they were already doing this in Japan and Europe and I regret not being mad about it on principal before it became my problem.

It's still not my problem since I already own a 3DS and thus a charger. But the problem is now in my region and it's a stupid choice on Nintendo's part.

To those defending Nintendo's rhetoric, here is proof positive that the savings on the absent charger are being passed on to Nintendo, not to the customer.

3DS XL launch price in Japan (no charger): ¥18,800
New 3DS XL launch price in Japan (no charger): ¥18,800
3DS XL launch price in UK (no charger): £179.99
New 3DS XL launch price in UK (no charger): £179.99
3DS XL launch price in US (with charger): $199.99
New 3DS XL launch price in US (no charger): $199.99

See the problem here? In Japan and in the UK, the New XL was valued at the same price as the original XL. None of those models included a charger, so we can conclude that the value of the New XL in 2014 is equal to the value of the standard XL in 2012. In America as well, the New XL is valued at the same price as the original XL was, but there is something missing from the box. This means that, if Nintendo is to be believed, the New model is considered more valuable in 2014 than the XL was in 2012. But this is clearly not the case anywhere else in the world.

In other words, Nintendo is lying through their teeth. No savings are being passed on to the customer in America.

This is a false statement.

The hardware is improved in the New 3DS XL. Larger screen area, extra input functions with C stick and Zr Zl buttons and a much improved CPU.

The hardware is better = a greater price.



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Hynad on 16 January 2015
novasonic said:
Eh, the thing about the Nintendo Color TV game not including a power cord bugs me. Like all 1st generation plug n' play consoles (Atari, Coleco, etc), they ran on D or C cell batteries by default and you could buy a dedicated power cord if you were h-core and burnt through too many batteries. Same as with the Game Boy or Game Gear. Very rarely did any of those things come with power cords.

They seem to neglect that fact in the story, but oh well. Not the first time a journalist bent the truth to make their point and wont be the last.


You seem to neglect the fact that those examples you gave used a universally adopted energy source. You could use any C or D batteries to make those function. 

The N3DS uses a proprietary power source. You cannot use regular batteries or one of the many universal mobile usb cord you may have to make it function. You need to get their backward proprietary charger, and they're selling it separately.  




Hynad on 16 January 2015
Cleary397 said:
the_dengle said:

I agree. I knew they were already doing this in Japan and Europe and I regret not being mad about it on principal before it became my problem.

It's still not my problem since I already own a 3DS and thus a charger. But the problem is now in my region and it's a stupid choice on Nintendo's part.

To those defending Nintendo's rhetoric, here is proof positive that the savings on the absent charger are being passed on to Nintendo, not to the customer.

3DS XL launch price in Japan (no charger): ¥18,800
New 3DS XL launch price in Japan (no charger): ¥18,800
3DS XL launch price in UK (no charger): £179.99
New 3DS XL launch price in UK (no charger): £179.99
3DS XL launch price in US (with charger): $199.99
New 3DS XL launch price in US (no charger): $199.99

See the problem here? In Japan and in the UK, the New XL was valued at the same price as the original XL. None of those models included a charger, so we can conclude that the value of the New XL in 2014 is equal to the value of the standard XL in 2012. In America as well, the New XL is valued at the same price as the original XL was, but there is something missing from the box. This means that, if Nintendo is to be believed, the New model is considered more valuable in 2014 than the XL was in 2012. But this is clearly not the case anywhere else in the world.

In other words, Nintendo is lying through their teeth. No savings are being passed on to the customer in America.

This is a false statement.

The hardware is improved in the New 3DS XL. Larger screen area, extra input functions with C stick and Zr Zl buttons and a much improved CPU.

The hardware is better = a greater price.

By your logic, the PS4 should be sold for over 600$ since it is much more powerful than the PS3, which came out at 599$.






And by the way, the charger is the same as it's ever been... Shouldn't it cost less to produce? After all, it isn't improved, and isn't "better hardware".



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OdinHades on 16 January 2015
Cleary397 said:
the_dengle said:

I agree. I knew they were already doing this in Japan and Europe and I regret not being mad about it on principal before it became my problem.

It's still not my problem since I already own a 3DS and thus a charger. But the problem is now in my region and it's a stupid choice on Nintendo's part.

To those defending Nintendo's rhetoric, here is proof positive that the savings on the absent charger are being passed on to Nintendo, not to the customer.

3DS XL launch price in Japan (no charger): ¥18,800
New 3DS XL launch price in Japan (no charger): ¥18,800
3DS XL launch price in UK (no charger): £179.99
New 3DS XL launch price in UK (no charger): £179.99
3DS XL launch price in US (with charger): $199.99
New 3DS XL launch price in US (no charger): $199.99

See the problem here? In Japan and in the UK, the New XL was valued at the same price as the original XL. None of those models included a charger, so we can conclude that the value of the New XL in 2014 is equal to the value of the standard XL in 2012. In America as well, the New XL is valued at the same price as the original XL was, but there is something missing from the box. This means that, if Nintendo is to be believed, the New model is considered more valuable in 2014 than the XL was in 2012. But this is clearly not the case anywhere else in the world.

In other words, Nintendo is lying through their teeth. No savings are being passed on to the customer in America.

This is a false statement.

The hardware is improved in the New 3DS XL. Larger screen area, extra input functions with C stick and Zr Zl buttons and a much improved CPU.

The hardware is better = a greater price.

Yeah, then why isn't the price higher in europe and japan where no charger was included with the old 3DS XL? 



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Hynad on 16 January 2015
OdinHades said:
Cleary397 said:

This is a false statement.

The hardware is improved in the New 3DS XL. Larger screen area, extra input functions with C stick and Zr Zl buttons and a much improved CPU.

The hardware is better = a greater price.

Yeah, then why isn't the price higher in europe and japan where no charger was included with the old 3DS XL? 

Because, you know, reason.



Lastgengamer on 16 January 2015

Chargers like this come with the cheapest ten dollar cell phones you get at like 7 eleven and dollar stores and they seem to be making a profit, still I wish we had seen this level of outrage when it first happened to Europe and Japan customers.



nomad on 16 January 2015

Nintendo just doesn't get it. They should have just included the charger and increased the price. That way they can increase profit margins much higher than the mere $1 savings from excluding a charger. Then, people wouldn't be complaining or writing articles about missing components or making accusations of money-pinching. Rather, people would be complaining about something else. It's a win-win, people would have have one less thing to be angry about and Nintendo could have increased profits further. *Sigh* Things could have been so much better.



hsrob on 16 January 2015
Cleary397 said:
the_dengle said:

I agree. I knew they were already doing this in Japan and Europe and I regret not being mad about it on principal before it became my problem.

It's still not my problem since I already own a 3DS and thus a charger. But the problem is now in my region and it's a stupid choice on Nintendo's part.

To those defending Nintendo's rhetoric, here is proof positive that the savings on the absent charger are being passed on to Nintendo, not to the customer.

3DS XL launch price in Japan (no charger): ¥18,800
New 3DS XL launch price in Japan (no charger): ¥18,800
3DS XL launch price in UK (no charger): £179.99
New 3DS XL launch price in UK (no charger): £179.99
3DS XL launch price in US (with charger): $199.99
New 3DS XL launch price in US (no charger): $199.99

See the problem here? In Japan and in the UK, the New XL was valued at the same price as the original XL. None of those models included a charger, so we can conclude that the value of the New XL in 2014 is equal to the value of the standard XL in 2012. In America as well, the New XL is valued at the same price as the original XL was, but there is something missing from the box. This means that, if Nintendo is to be believed, the New model is considered more valuable in 2014 than the XL was in 2012. But this is clearly not the case anywhere else in the world.

In other words, Nintendo is lying through their teeth. No savings are being passed on to the customer in America.

This is a false statement.

The hardware is improved in the New 3DS XL. Larger screen area, extra input functions with C stick and Zr Zl buttons and a much improved CPU.

The hardware is better = a greater price.

You may need to re-read his post.

I think you missed the part where Nintendo priced the New and XL the same as each other in both Japan and the UK (no charger in all instances), so clearly even Nintendo believes they are worth the same.

Following on from that (in the US),  if they were truly passing the saving onto the consumer, the New3DS without charger should be priced cheaper than the old 3DS XL.

I would like to point out that I think this issue is the proverbial mountain from mole hill, but nonetheless Nintendo shouldn't have claimed they were passing savings onto the consumer when it appears that this is not the case.