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Like any other country, USA can be right sometimes and wrong some others:
1) Fighting the talibans in afghanistan was right, although it was done in a quite ineffective way, mainly because the problem of Pakistan ambiguity has never been solved
2) Second war against Saddam was wrong, the right time to dethrone him was at latest within 1993, before the rise of al-Qaeda and other sunni jihadist movements
3) The worst error was to not grant the independence of Kurdistan, it would have been one of the few reliable and probably the second most sincerely grateful ally of the Western world in the Middle East. being coward about this issue to not hurt Turkey susceptibility was extremely short-sighted, now Turkey majority has steered for years away from tolerance towards more worrying closed-minded borderline integralist positions, while Kurdistan is being destroyed, slaughtered, pillaged and raped by the bearded donkeys.



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Let's blame America for every thing >_>

Religion causes nothing but conflicts and wars. ..



Yes and no, America's meddling since Afghanistan in the 1970's was the start of a series of bad long-term involvements.



Europe made itself an easy target with their tolerance and criminal friendly prisons. There are no major terrorist attacks in the US because terrorists fear the US, especially when Guatamo bay was open. The worst euro can do is a few days in isolation cell or a bullet. Neither does Europe screen immigrants or take passports from those who go to fight for ISIS so if this attack had been made possible by a country/continent it's Tolerance Europe.

That same arrogance will cause more attacks in Europe until they realize that people who go to war and fight for an enemy of the state is also an enemy of the state. These 1000 Isis fighters should be thrown in jail if they set a single foot on European ground. Or even better bombed by the Western military forces.



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tiffac said:
People blaming religion doesn't realize that trail of thought and narrow minded thinking is the problem.

The fanatics that does this kind of sh!t thinks the same way, only the other way around.

“We want to laugh at the extremists — every extremist. They can be Muslim, Jewish, Catholic. Everyone can be religious, but extremist thoughts and acts we cannot accept.”


So it's just a coincidence that al queda, Hamas, IS, boko haram are all Muslim organisations. The Qran ends a new testament so that the book can't be interpreted wrong by New generations as should the ayatollahs strongly disapprove these kind of actions, but I did not hear a single word of that man.



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Lyrikalstylez said:

Let's blame America for every thing >_>

Religion causes nothing but conflicts and wars. ..


Those statements are equally dumb and stupid. America isn't responsible nor is the religion. The entire cultural difference and a bit of desperation and propaganda causes this.



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Qwark said:
tiffac said:
People blaming religion doesn't realize that trail of thought and narrow minded thinking is the problem.

The fanatics that does this kind of sh!t thinks the same way, only the other way around.

“We want to laugh at the extremists — every extremist. They can be Muslim, Jewish, Catholic. Everyone can be religious, but extremist thoughts and acts we cannot accept.”


So it's just a coincidence that al queda, Hamas, IS, boko haram are all Muslim organisations. The Qran ends a new testament so that the book can't be interpreted wrong by New generations as should the ayatollahs strongly disapprove these kind of actions, but I did not hear a single word of that man.

I agree that right now, most of the terrorist act are done by Muslims. No doubt but what I'm trying to point out is, the day we put every religious person in the same boat as these zealots, is the day these m@thefuckers win.

Because instead of trying to sway people away from radicalism, we promote them to go there because they will be condemned and in some countries prosecuted for their faith and that just adds to the problem.

Edit: Sadly, some religious leaders are part of the greater problem. _-_



I don't blame America. I blame one single religion since it is from that religion from which most terrorists come from and we would all be better of without that particular religion. At the end of the day we should also get rid of eople with the same mindset as that religion. This mindset is that they would kill/hurt someone if that someone spoke badly about their god/prophet.



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No, blame religion.



 

tiffac said:
Qwark said:
tiffac said:
People blaming religion doesn't realize that trail of thought and narrow minded thinking is the problem.

The fanatics that does this kind of sh!t thinks the same way, only the other way around.

“We want to laugh at the extremists — every extremist. They can be Muslim, Jewish, Catholic. Everyone can be religious, but extremist thoughts and acts we cannot accept.”


So it's just a coincidence that al queda, Hamas, IS, boko haram are all Muslim organisations. The Qran ends a new testament so that the book can't be interpreted wrong by New generations as should the ayatollahs strongly disapprove these kind of actions, but I did not hear a single word of that man.

I agree that right now, most of the terrorist act are done by Muslims. No doubt but what I'm trying to point out is, the day we put every religious person in the same boat as these zealots, is the day these m@thefuckers win.

Because instead of trying to sway people away from radicalism, we promote them to go there because they will be condemned and in some countries prosecuted for their faith and that just adds to the problem.

Edit: Sadly, some religious leaders are part of the greater problem. _-_

Only shortsighted people believe that every muslim agrees with these kid of actions and I strongly dissaprove with statements like that. My point is that the religion is a part of the problem. If the religion they try to defend in such a violent matter would openly dissaprove their actions most important including the leaders in The West and more importantly in the East and the Q'ran would get a new testament it would solve a bit of the greater problem.

We should void people going to fight for IS but if European born muslims are radicalised they should be considered an enemy of the state, since Europe and the US/Canada and Australia (perhaps not oficially) declared war on IS. I still find it hard to imagine though why people born and raised in the West with a hopefull future want to fight for IS, I can understand the helpless and depressed arab, which has been bombed by the West, or the arab being a prey to anti west propaganda, for that instance you can assume all these 1000 people don't fit in the Western world and thus we don't want the to come back, but in Europe most countries don't want them to go in the first place (even though they lack serious concequenses for that decission).

By most demonstrations in Europe against this terrorist attack where multiple muslims present without being attacked. Although some extreme right organisations have found some new soil to breed on which is ultimatly sad but in some way understandable.



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