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Seece on 11 January 2015
zorg1000 said:
More incoherent rambling that has little to do with what other posters are saying, this is getting more and more like the Unity thread


Agreed, it's all completely irrevelent to his main point (which funnily enough he never wants to talk about).



 

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Seece on 11 January 2015
Intrinsic said:

With this thread, how sure you seem to be and after all the typing you have done? I hope for your sake you are right.

Just to be clear though, you are saying that at the ed of this generation the wiiiU would have sold the most right?

He thinks it will sell 260 million units, selling something like 40 million units a year going into 2020.

Yup.

He then portrays this prediction as fact to get around PS4 actually winning. We can't talk as if PS4 winning because in his opinion it isn't.



 

Intrinsic on 11 January 2015
Seece said:
Intrinsic said:

With this thread, how sure you seem to be and after all the typing you have done? I hope for your sake you are right.

Just to be clear though, you are saying that at the ed of this generation the wiiiU would have sold the most right?

He thinks it will sell 260 million units, selling something like 40 million units a year going into 2020.

Yup.

He then portrays this prediction as fact to get around PS4 actually winning. We can't talk as if PS4 winning because in his opinion it isn't.

Wow, if someone is delusional. like literally delusional and i call him delusional. is that banable?

I mean that's like telling a guy with brown hair that he has brown hair 



Zekkyou on 11 January 2015
Seece said:
Intrinsic said:

With this thread, how sure you seem to be and after all the typing you have done? I hope for your sake you are right.

Just to be clear though, you are saying that at the ed of this generation the wiiiU would have sold the most right?

He thinks it will sell 260 million units, selling something like 40 million units a year going into 2020.

Yup.

He then portrays this prediction as fact to get around PS4 actually winning. We can't talk as if PS4 winning because in his opinion it isn't.

So part of his 'proof' that the PS4 can't win is because [x] has never happened before, yet he expects the WiiU to accomplish something that has never happened before?

Huh. That's quite the logic circle we've got here :p



cheshirescat on 11 January 2015
Zekkyou said:

So part of his 'proof' that the PS4 can't win is because [x] has never happened before, yet he expects the WiiU to accomplish something that has never happened before?

Huh. That's quite the logic circle we've got here :p


It's like a bastardized version of achilles and the tortoise, where achilles has already overtaken the toirtoise but the tortoise still insists that it's impossible.



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johnlucas on 11 January 2015
Intrinsic said:

With this thread, how sure you seem to be and after all the typing you have done? I hope for your sake you are right.

Just to be clear though, you are saying that at the ed of this generation the wiiiU would have sold the most right?


Yes I am.
Refer to the still-locked (but not for long) UNITY post for details.

I will fill in the picture for you more clearly in future FACTS vs. FICTION volumes.
I'm going to elaborate on that Japan is the Capital of the Videogame Market fact some more there.

There's LOTS of stuff that's gonna alter your views on how this business works once I drop the volumes.
I hope I cleared up the Second System revelation for you.
I always want people to be informed.

John Lucas



Words from the Official VGChartz Idiot

WE ARE THE NATION...OF DOMINATION!

 

johnlucas on 11 January 2015
Seece said:
"Well let's take the example of the XBox 360.
Not THE MOST powerful console but close to it.
It had a mix of nice features just like you said, it was priced better than at least PS3, it had great 1st & 3rd party titles...
...yet it's struggling to get past 84 million after 9 years on the market.

Struggling to get past that 84 million in a decade when the 5th gen PlayStation 1 of 20 years ago sold over 104 million most of which was sold in its First 5 Years.
Has all that good stuff & still can't get past a 20 year old system?
Not to mention that a lot of its sales happened after it patterned itself after the Wii!
Monthly sales doubled once they put out the XBox 360 S & Kinect in 2010."

What kind of utterly ridiculous comparison is this? PS1 didn't have major competition. What has it being 20 years old got to do with anything as well?

There is never any basis or logic behind your arguments.


How old were you when the PlayStation 1 came out?
Answer that right quick for me.

PS1 release = December 3, 1994 Japan; September 9, 1995 America; September 29, 1995 Europe.

John Lucas



Words from the Official VGChartz Idiot

WE ARE THE NATION...OF DOMINATION!

 

st0pnsw0p on 11 January 2015
johnlucas said:
Seece said:
"Well let's take the example of the XBox 360.
Not THE MOST powerful console but close to it.
It had a mix of nice features just like you said, it was priced better than at least PS3, it had great 1st & 3rd party titles...
...yet it's struggling to get past 84 million after 9 years on the market.

Struggling to get past that 84 million in a decade when the 5th gen PlayStation 1 of 20 years ago sold over 104 million most of which was sold in its First 5 Years.
Has all that good stuff & still can't get past a 20 year old system?
Not to mention that a lot of its sales happened after it patterned itself after the Wii!
Monthly sales doubled once they put out the XBox 360 S & Kinect in 2010."

What kind of utterly ridiculous comparison is this? PS1 didn't have major competition. What has it being 20 years old got to do with anything as well?

There is never any basis or logic behind your arguments.


How old were you when the PlayStation 1 came out?
Answer that right quick for me.

PS1 release = December 3, 1994 Japan; September 9, 1995 America; September 29, 1995 Europe.

John Lucas

Uhhh. He never said PS1 didn't come out 20 years ago. He asked why that's relevant to your comparison.



Seece on 11 January 2015
johnlucas said:
Seece said:
"Well let's take the example of the XBox 360.
Not THE MOST powerful console but close to it.
It had a mix of nice features just like you said, it was priced better than at least PS3, it had great 1st & 3rd party titles...
...yet it's struggling to get past 84 million after 9 years on the market.

Struggling to get past that 84 million in a decade when the 5th gen PlayStation 1 of 20 years ago sold over 104 million most of which was sold in its First 5 Years.
Has all that good stuff & still can't get past a 20 year old system?
Not to mention that a lot of its sales happened after it patterned itself after the Wii!
Monthly sales doubled once they put out the XBox 360 S & Kinect in 2010."

What kind of utterly ridiculous comparison is this? PS1 didn't have major competition. What has it being 20 years old got to do with anything as well?

There is never any basis or logic behind your arguments.


How old were you when the PlayStation 1 came out?
Answer that right quick for me.

PS1 release = December 3, 1994 Japan; September 9, 1995 America; September 29, 1995 Europe.

John Lucas

What has my age got to do with anything. Stop acting like the years automatically give you wisdom, because it's certainly not true in this case. (Where I have been spot on with 3DS and WiiU sales most of the time and you have been way off the mark).



 

johnlucas on 11 January 2015
st0pnsw0p said:
johnlucas said:


How old were you when the PlayStation 1 came out?
Answer that right quick for me.

PS1 release = December 3, 1994 Japan; September 9, 1995 America; September 29, 1995 Europe.

John Lucas

Uhhh. He never said PS1 didn't come out 20 years ago. He asked why that's relevant to your comparison.

You'll find out how it matters when he answers the question.
It's relevant.

John Lucas



Words from the Official VGChartz Idiot

WE ARE THE NATION...OF DOMINATION!