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fleischr said:

1. Because its not Halo, Call of Duty, or Battlefield

Or made/published by the same people. Most shooters that don't already belong to an established franchise don't do well. Spec Ops? More like Spec Flops! ZombiU? more like Zombi who! Metro Last Light? Sniper Elite 3? Didn't sell well either.

2. Because it actually has a single player campaign

Recently, the best-selling shooters either have a single player campaign that is either shorter than it's predecessors (Call of Duty), extremely minimal (Destiny), or just about absent entirely (Titanfall). 

Devil's Third will fail because an extensive single player campaign has been promised. Given sales trends, gamers tend to prefer FPSs not to have a single player campaign at all.

3. Because its multiplayer and overall gameplay will be too different

Levels customized by users and clans? A variety of never-before seen win conditions? Uniquely blended FPS and hack-and slash combat? Pass. I'd rather play on Coagulation on Halo MCC for the millionth time in my life. Or buy the same maps for CoD all over again.

4. Because its Nintendo

Speaking of different.... you know who really suck at doing stuff that's special and different? Nintendo. They're awful at it. 

This even applies when Nintendo works with external studios as they did with Bayonetta 2 and Hyrule Warriors. I mean, come on, Bayonetta is just another GOW clone and Hyrule Warriors is just another Zelda game.

5. Because the online will work day one

As for Nintendo, did you know that all their online multiplayer WiiU titles released this year have worked since their launch? Granted, the online will largely work because no one will play it. 

Regardless, Nintendo is following a dangerous path with working online.

A key factor in a successful launch of a multiplayer FPS is broken online play at launch. It gets everyone talking and, more importantly, whining about your game. If a game isn't worth whining about, no one will buy it to complain about what a broken POS it is. This was particularly essential for Battlefield 4 and Halo MCC. 

6. Because it doesn't deserve to be successful

If a game is not on Playstation, Xbox or PC, it doesn't deserve to be successful ever. Period. In the off chance DT sells more than a million units and does well on Metacritic, we have to insist that the game would be better if it were on PS, Xbox, or PC to begin with.

Despite the WiiU version being the only one, we have to acknowledge that its not definitive and that it's a flop relative to it's thereotical PS/Xbox/PC counterpart.

7. Because graphix

Clearly DT was intended from the ground up to actually be a PS2 gaem.  In fact, because I'm so sure it's a PS2 gaem, I'll wait until Devil's Third inevitably comes to PSN so I can play it on the Vita.  Should be alright there, but I think I'd go Bayo 2 on Vita first.


8.Because it's not on my console of choice and I'm a POS hater who can't live without hating!



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Don't forget resolution and framerate; games these days have to run at 1080p/20-25fps to be worth buying.



uran10 said:
why do most of the points sound positive to me?

Because you like to drink Kool-Aid.



Some of the points are sad but true T_T



                  

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I'm actually quite excited for it. Is it gonna flop? Hell yea, but could fill a void of a Call of Duty for half a year.
Well I guess we'll have to see how it turns out first, graphics look bad but hopefully will be polished before release.



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noname2200 said:
uran10 said:
why do most of the points sound positive to me?

Because you like to drink Kool-Aid.


That's racist! PS: I'm black and don't drink kool-aid, but dem fried chicken.... yum



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fleischr said:

1. Because its not Halo, Call of Duty, or Battlefield

Or made/published by the same people. Most shooters that don't already belong to an established franchise don't do well. Spec Ops? More like Spec Flops! ZombiU? more like Zombi who! Metro Last Light? Sniper Elite 3? Didn't sell well either.

2. Because it actually has a single player campaign

Recently, the best-selling shooters either have a single player campaign that is either shorter than it's predecessors (Call of Duty), extremely minimal (Destiny), or just about absent entirely (Titanfall). 

Devil's Third will fail because an extensive single player campaign has been promised. Given sales trends, gamers tend to prefer FPSs not to have a single player campaign at all.

3. Because its multiplayer and overall gameplay will be too different

Levels customized by users and clans? A variety of never-before seen win conditions? Uniquely blended FPS and hack-and slash combat? Pass. I'd rather play on Coagulation on Halo MCC for the millionth time in my life. Or buy the same maps for CoD all over again.

4. Because its Nintendo

Speaking of different.... you know who really suck at doing stuff that's special and different? Nintendo. They're awful at it. 

This even applies when Nintendo works with external studios as they did with Bayonetta 2 and Hyrule Warriors. I mean, come on, Bayonetta is just another GOW clone and Hyrule Warriors is just another Zelda game.

5. Because the online will work day one

As for Nintendo, did you know that all their online multiplayer WiiU titles released this year have worked since their launch? Granted, the online will largely work because no one will play it. 

Regardless, Nintendo is following a dangerous path with working online.

A key factor in a successful launch of a multiplayer FPS is broken online play at launch. It gets everyone talking and, more importantly, whining about your game. If a game isn't worth whining about, no one will buy it to complain about what a broken POS it is. This was particularly essential for Battlefield 4 and Halo MCC. 

6. Because it doesn't deserve to be successful

If a game is not on Playstation, Xbox or PC, it doesn't deserve to be successful ever. Period. In the off chance DT sells more than a million units and does well on Metacritic, we have to insist that the game would be better if it were on PS, Xbox, or PC to begin with.

Despite the WiiU version being the only one, we have to acknowledge that its not definitive and that it's a flop relative to it's thereotical PS/Xbox/PC counterpart.

7. Because graphix

Clearly DT was intended from the ground up to actually be a PS2 gaem.  In fact, because I'm so sure it's a PS2 gaem, I'll wait until Devil's Third inevitably comes to PSN so I can play it on the Vita.  Should be alright there, but I think I'd go Bayo 2 on Vita first.


1. It's a Nintendo exclusive game and NOT being one of those three overdone, overated franchises with a bad online reputation will serve it well. Hurray for not dealing with 13 year olds screaming their heads off into a microphone online!

2. Unlike the majority of the teenage male population that play the "hardcore" games like Call of Duty and Halo on the other devices, the only people that will bother to buy Devil's Third will more than likely be an older Nintendo fanboy group that actually ENJOY cool stories. The fact that this game focuses on the story so much is EXTREMELY appealing to me. I wouldn't bother buying the game at all if it didn't have a campaign, let alone a good one.

3. It's multiplayer uniqueness is very appealing to me. I'm bored with the Halo/Call of duty style. It was fun for a decade, now it is not.

4. I'm beginning to think your trolling. I played and beat Hyrule Warriors and that game was beyond impressive. I haven't played much of Bayonetta 2 yet, but if it is as good as 1 then it is one of the best action games ever. Nintendo OWNS games and the ability to make them, they just don't have the quantity that the competition has.

5. /facepalm

6. I've been trolled. Wow good job!

7. I'm now laughing at my own seriousness! LOL!!!



pokoko said:
1 Reason why Devil's Third will receive praise and hype despite the mediocre game-play reveal.

1. It's a Nintendo exclusive.


Seriously, what's with the excuses and rationalizations? If this game had been an Xbox/Playstation exclusive, the world would be ignoring the hell out of it right now. If Nintendo fans commented at all, it would be to say that it's just another violent shooter and they're glad such games are skipping the Wii U. It looked exceedingly average. If it gains improvements across the board, as the developer promised, then that's great, but for now, it deserves very little attention. Trying to create pre-made excuses for why it might get poor reviews is kind of silly at this point.

Best answer in the thread.



9. It's not a remaster of a game we already played last gen.



pokoko said:
1 Reason why Devil's Third will receive praise and hype despite the mediocre game-play reveal.

1. It's a Nintendo exclusive.


Seriously, what's with the excuses and rationalizations? If this game had been an Xbox/Playstation exclusive, the world would be ignoring the hell out of it right now. If Nintendo fans commented at all, it would be to say that it's just another violent shooter and they're glad such games are skipping the Wii U. It looked exceedingly average. If it gains improvements across the board, as the developer promised, then that's great, but for now, it deserves very little attention. Trying to create pre-made excuses for why it might get poor reviews is kind of silly at this point.

Hypocrit much? You fervently defend the Order 1886, dismissing legit criticism towards game

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