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archer9234 on 27 December 2014
Burek said:
archer9234 said:
Burek said:

I am still trying to wrap my mind around the notion of going to the store, buying a disc, then going home and downloading a game from Steam. Seems redundant and pointless.

You're not really doing that. The CD-Key is activated on steam. And the DRM is handle through steam, and not a disc check. But the game is installed from the disc. Only missing patches are downloaded with steam. You're not dling the whole game. So instead of 6 hrs of dling for Skyrim, becomes 30 mins plus patches. Whenever you need to install the game.


Oh, OK, thank you for explaining. I just never thought that people buy PC games in stores...

I sitll buy my PC games physically. I want ownership in some way. And don't want to deal with 9 hr downloads every time I want to reinstall GTA IV, for example. Steam was always to me a legal No CD crack lol.



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Ali_16x on 27 December 2014
errorpwns said:

Yet somehow my mom was able to open skyrim and just play it. No setting changes, no technical issues. No downloading of patches after buying a disc in a store. Just download it in minutes on steam and play it. She has no technical PC skills. Her PC was cheaper to build than a used PS3 too and runs it better than a PS3 could ever dream of running it. Required no extra talent to run.


It only requires hours of modding when it doesn't start the first time. I've had problems with some PC games where I download them and they just don't work. And it takes fucking forever to work, so what's the point of this article? Trying to say that PC games all work? BAhahaaha....



"There is only one race, the pathetic begging race"

Talal on 27 December 2014

Isn't like Windows alone more expensive than a used PS3?



Ilikegames on 27 December 2014

TLDR: Bullshit
PC is mostly quick and easy but it sure as hell isn't as easy as you're making it sound. Just to give an example, when I tried playing Bioshock 2 I was getting no audio, when I googled it I had to disable an audio device I never use, disabled it and it worked. A casual is already in territory they don't understand. Then I tried playing Battlefront 2, which crashed every single time I started a game..turns out it needs that previously disabled audio device, enabled. Casuals finding the control panel or audio devices is already not plug and play. Oh yeah bullshit some cheap $200 pc is running Skyrim at anything playable.



Conina on 27 December 2014
rolltide101x said:
sc94597 said:

Don't forget your subscription service though. $50 /year*10 years = $500 to play online. You might say, but but free games!! Well as far as I remember I can get plenty of high quality free games like Planetside 2, League of Legends, and DOTA 2 on Steam. 

LOL comparing F2P games to PSPlus games? Reaching

I love PS Plus for my PlayStation combo (PS3 + PS4 + Vita), but there are pretty great deals for PC games all around the year. Steam sales, humble store, game bundles, classics on GOG, free EA-classics ("on the house"), free game time for new Origin games... 

For example the Eidos anthology this week (26 € instead of 220 € for these 34 games), coupon code for checkout in the Square-Enix-Store = GAMESRDR

https://store.eu.square-enix.com/emea_de/games/pc-windows-download/Eidos-Anthology-DE.php



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pokoko on 27 December 2014

As a PC gamer, I don't think it's true that PC gaming is as accessible as console gaming at all. Sure, sometimes, yes, even most of the time, but wait until you have to do your own trouble-shooting. I get calls all the time from my friend because his wife, who is addicted to casual PC games, has run into a problem.

I never was able to solve the mouse lag issue I had with Deus Ex: HR, even after trying all the solutions people said worked for them. I never could get the free DLC that came with Dragon Age: Origins to work, either, despite trying about a dozen different work-arounds. EA support's answer? "Uh, go ask on the forums, maybe," even after I told them I'd tried everything listed there. Never did solve the issue with the performance of Fallout: NV going down AFTER I upgraded my video-card and drivers, though I suspect a re-install would fix it--which I wasn't going to do, as I'd already beaten the game multiple times and have no intention of sitting through another day-long download just to mess around with some mods.

As far as PC games being eternally backwards compatible, that isn't true. I have several Steam games that won't play well with Windows 7. Still kind of bummed that Overlord won't go past a certain point without crashing ...

That being said, it's still come a long way, though I wouldn't recommend PC gaming over console gaming for someone who can't handle trouble-shooting on their own or even simply doesn't want to handle it on their own.



bluemd on 27 December 2014

Exactly what i've been saying for a long time... Last year i bought a pc for my granpa with a 3sli of titan, a raid zero of two 1 tera ssds and 3 i7 with 64 gb of ddr4 and i paid it 50 bucks.
And turns out that day they were giving free oculus rift prototypes so now he is playing battlefield with oculus at 4k 120fps.

All for 50 bucks!



archer9234 on 27 December 2014
Ilikegames said:
TLDR: Bullshit
PC is mostly quick and easy but it sure as hell isn't as easy as you're making it sound. Just to give an example, when I tried playing Bioshock 2 I was getting no audio, when I googled it I had to disable an audio device I never use, disabled it and it worked. A casual is already in territory they don't understand. Then I tried playing Battlefront 2, which crashed every single time I started a game..turns out it needs that previously disabled audio device, enabled. Casuals finding the control panel or audio devices is already not plug and play. Oh yeah bullshit some cheap $200 pc is running Skyrim at anything playable.

That reminds me. Skyrim has a audio bug that hasn't been fixed on realtek audio drivers. You have to set the audio to 5.1. Then downsample the audio to stereo. Even if you don't have those speakers, just to hear all of the audio from the game. You have to affect your entire PC audio setup to just fix this one game. If you don't do this. The ingames audio is way too low. Because you're hearing only the rear audio channels. No matter what mode you set the audio in game. So everyone has echo on their voices.



fps_d0minat0r on 27 December 2014
Talal said:
Isn't like Windows alone more expensive than a used PS3?


Thats the point where its ok for the master race to come down from their high horse and tell you piracy is ok.



the_real_dsister44 on 27 December 2014
fps_d0minat0r said:
Talal said:
Isn't like Windows alone more expensive than a used PS3?


Thats the point where its ok for the master race to come down from their high horse and tell you piracy is ok.


Hmm? I spent $30 on W8 on release. I can get 3 copies for free through my uni.